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  9. Gun seen on adult at school, cops called? Oh wait....

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    Are you talking about this legal immposibility?

     

    ORC 2923.122

    (3) This section does not apply to a person who conveys or attempts to convey a handgun into, or possesses a handgun in, a school safety zone if, at the time of that conveyance, attempted conveyance, or possession of the handgun, all of the following apply:

    (a) The person does not enter into a school building or onto school premises and is not at a school activity.

    (b) The person is carrying a valid concealed handgun license.

    © The person is in the school safety zone in accordance with 18 U.S.C. 922(q)(2)(B).

    (d) The person is not knowingly in a place described in division (B)(1) or (B)(3) to (10) of section 2923.126 of the Revised Code.

  10. Gun seen on adult at school, cops called? Oh wait....

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    Posted · Edited by jagr

    Let the plain language of the law speak for itself.

     

    (B) THE PERSON IS THE DRIVER OR PASSENGER IN A MOTOR VEHICLE AND IS IN THE SCHOOL SAFETY ZONE WHILE IMMEDIATELY IN THE PROCESS OF PICKING UP OR DROPPING OFF A CHILD.

     

    read it a few times and let it sink in.

    we are not talking about universities.

    we are not talking about psuedo or real firearms authorized by the school board for authorized school activities.

    we are talking about a CHL carrying citizen IN a vechicle in the immediate process of dropping off or picking up a child.

    this is as plain as it gets.

     

    this is a very narrow and defined sentence.

    Specifically take note of  "IN A VEHICLE" and the word "CHILD."

     

    The exemption given to us CHLers is plain as day. do not read into or add your own take on the wording.

    This exemption applies to "Drop off or pick up of a CHILD only. There is no wording for the exemption of dropping off an adult. 

    Say your wife is a teacher and you drop her off at the school office door in the morning while armed you have violated this exemption and may be charged.

     

    lets back up and look at Ohio CCW law a bit.

    Please note that in Ohio deadly weapons are illegal just about everywhere. im not talking in your house or property and im not touching open carry. im talking concealed and or deadly weapons or ordnance. the way Ohio made it legal to do what we do is to provide exemptions for CHL holders. These exemptions are scattered through the code and make compliance rather difficult.

    For example school safety zone includes "school premises, building or activity."

    Lets look at school activities. Now with that in mind O.R.C 2901.01©(3) defines school activity as "any activity that happens under the auspices of a school board of education"

     

    (3) "School activity" means any activity held under the auspices of a board of education of a city, local, exempted village, joint vocational, or cooperative education school district; a governing authority of a community school established under Chapter 3314. of the Revised Code; a governing board of an educational service center, or the governing body of a school for which the state board of education prescribes minimum standards under section 3301.07 of the Revised Code.

     

     

    That said you are walking and carrying at a park and that park is hosting a soccer game or cross country event. Can you tell if its a local city leauge or a school team? Well you better know as if its a school team you are now in a school zone carrying illegally.

    Why is that?

    Because you do not meet the plain wording of the exemption

    Because as stated above the exemption is very narrow and specific in allowing you to carry in a school zone.

     

    (B) THE PERSON IS THE DRIVER OR PASSENGER IN A MOTOR VEHICLE AND IS IN THE SCHOOL SAFETY ZONE WHILE IMMEDIATELY IN THE PROCESS OF PICKING UP OR DROPPING OFF A CHILD.

     

    Hope this helps.

  11. glock gen 4 rsa question

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    Posted · Edited by jagr

    Dry? That's absurd. As I only clean Glocks MAYBE once a year I'm gonna call BS on too dry or lack of Teflon. I low for a fact I've run at least 2500 rounds between Sandy Hook and now with maybe 2 FTF of Blazer brass. That said Glad it worked out for you. WWB on the other hand has always given me fits.

    Recon. Per my experience.

    CorBons and Golden Sabers cycle just fine in G4 19s.

    As do Federal HSPs and civil Defense 50gr.

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