I agree with your point about the RC,TL ,SV1000 but rj was talking about a 650. Now if you want to talk about the big boys, we should compare those to the 1125, which I can't stand to look at. My point is not everyone wants a full on sportbike, and why should it matter what someone else rides? Hell I put 33,000 miles on my Buell the first three years I had it, I guess I shouldn't have enjoyed those miles because it wasn't the fastest thing on 2 wheels.