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yep, yer right.........good point, "why am i stil here"........have a great day.....

Every time the elite have a beef with each other.....who do they send in in fight and die.......US,,,,,so I cant for life of me figure out what you so against!!! were not part of any party, but we do support the tea party's message......and our veterans symbolize EVERYTHING that is good and right about our country

thats just sad. these guys are dying in iraq and you want to play your left vs right BS.....we have guys who understand the real issue, so i guess all i can say is i cant argue with you because you think everyone has some kind of self serving agenda, some of US dont buy the govt propaganda (from the left or the right), and we want to live in peace and without govt controls, So....The TRUE INSULT is to let all the sacrifices that our guys made, become used as a tool for the Ultra Elite to gain more power and wealth, But, if you dont see that BOTH parties (Rep and Dem) are extensions of the Corperate Controlled government, than there is little to be dont.....hope someday you realize that its the illusion of Left vs Right , is just that...an illusion.........its about the Super rich against the middle and lower classes..........

Were non political organiztion.....but will support ANY group who stands up for the constitution.............gotta go..........stay safe

YOUR A VET? and dont support what where about? ummm, ok i guess im taken back......wow, ok.....well i respect what you and your family have done for our country,,,and wish you the best.......well gotta run, headed to a rally to support OUR Freedoms under the constitution with a bunch of wacko patriots.........

ha ha, ok......Ya gotta look 2 steps ahead to see whats comin' read between the lines and study history..........You young guys are the ones most affected, and we wish nothing but the best for you. Come down whenever ya can, get some free food and drinks. Never hurts to try something new.........were in cincinnati......

but, ok, if you guys wanna come down i'll buy ya a few beers, hang with some of or vets....we can yell at each other and maybe we'll find some common ground.....again civil debate is a good thing and i respect yer points........safe ridin'

a federally structured "civilian" force is a draft in nicer words. Community service should take place on the local level, local groups with NO Political ties, thats how it has always been most effective. IF you have a national "community" service force, the political machine corrupts it and uses it for their own agenda (political, military). Why shoul teenagers and college students be marching in formation, wearing colors, for "community service" groups........

@ the graph, yea that my point !!!! under Bush we got massive spending and the patriot act!!! corruption at its finest!, the debt graph is much higher now (2008- http://www.trinity.edu/rjensen/DebtGraph01.jpg), 2009 will be even higher.....The patriot Act was step 1 to the "the road to serfdom" and its still going on..... The Rebulicans are as much to blame, their no difference between the parties,

sect 120 part b, number 3, subsection(B) service-learning is a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency. now look a little further sect 1508: SEC. 1508. AUTHORIZED BENEFITS FOR CORPS MEMBERS. Section 158 (42 U.S.C. 12618) is amended– (1) in subsection (a) by inserting ‘National’ before ‘Civilian Community Corps’; and (2) in subsection ©– (A) in the matter preceding paragraph (1)– (i) by inserting ‘National’ before ‘Civilian Community Corps’; and (ii) by inserting before the colon the following: ‘, as the Director determines appropriate’; (B) in paragraph (6), by striking ‘Clothing’ and inserting ‘Uniforms’; and © in paragraph (7), by striking ‘Recreational services and supplies’ and inserting ‘Supplies’. Sounding a little like militarizing for national serves yet? it goes on...........

remeber the stimulus bill, sounded great.....we lost...heres where we stand and guess whos gonna pay for it. http://www.colorado.edu/AmStudies/lewis/ecology/natdebt.gif

were protesting sending out troops to fight and die in foreign countries, while here at home out freedom are being stipped from us. In not opposed to dems or repubs or any other group. Im opposed to taxing the sh&%^ out of US common people, while were losing our jobs. Just as a rider look at what they TELL us we can/can do? tax yer paycheck,tax the gas, tax anything you buy...then you have to pay for registration every year, now they ant mandate helmets, toll roads......I know weve grown up thinking taxes are a part of life, but c'mon isnt it getting a little crazy? Were for a strong military that stays home and protects THIS country and not the interest of Goldman Sachs, Exxon, and the rest......cant we agree on that?

I Will not fight and so that the biggest banks and industry can get even richer, while my middle class friends and family die.

well since ya responded heres another post heres the adjunct to the previous bill and a video for you, maybe we can have a good debate on this, if your interested, without slamming or the usual name calling ? adjunct to 1388: is hr 1444 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1444) and this intention of "draft" is not new,this bill is just the leagl preparation so that is can be enforced: video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7RItqXGdWU

im done, but still wish ya safety in travels

ha ha , ok.....guess we just disagree.....way to throw in Hitler.....isnt that what you say the tea party guys do?

ha ha, when does it every say clearly what its intent is? its ALWAYS statemt in legal jargon that people think is one thing, but is in reality another....If your really interested we can get into the legals of it....c'mon, remeber the patriot act? only later did we find out that federal agents CAN ENTER YOUR HOUSE W/OUT A WARRANT, thay can tap yer lines without you ever knowing it. If You Really want I can forward you examples from the healthcare bill that on face value sounds GREAT, but when you get into the meat of the bill, its some scary sh#$t. Govt direct access to bank accounts, single payen national system, ect, ect......now theres a lot of people who think that all this is fantasy, and that's just hiding er head in the sand......but hey man this is a site for riders so I WILL NOT POST ANY MORE "POLITICAL" STUFF, IF YOU WANT ANY JUST SEND ME A MESSAGE.........ride safe

theres a reason the mainstream media didnt report on this....while were soo busy screaming about healthcare, they slip in bills under the radar, its an old and very effective tactic used by BOTH parties.

HR 1388: Service America Act (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1388).....now thats a pretty nice title, isnt it....now as usual the devil are inthe detail.....remember the "stimulus" act? nothing more than a way to funnel trillions of dollars to the wealthiest banks, leaving YOU and I with rising unemployment and massive debt. I will post the specific passages that apply to you and me if your too busy to read the bill. Not too sure why yer hostile towards ME, we probably believe and want the same things...AND im not republican, I was opposed to Bush and I am opposed to the new leadership, under Obama.....got.a wake up and see that their both the same party. Yes, my spelling suck (too lazy to spellcheck)

@ the pictures and post above........you must be in highschool still? or get your news from TV,,,,,,,I guess these are matters that you just dont understand....pretty sad........suuuure make it a race issue, that pretty typical for someone who has NO clue whats happening.......btw im hispanic and we ride with a mixed racial bunch! have a good day............oh you might want to know the bill for mandatory military service ( ie draft)passed the house of reps yesterday, so good luck riding on your way to Iraq. --end the war! --end govt intrusion into our lives --peace for ALL here at home

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