I looked at them and thought...expensive and now you have two things to put on. Probably extra warm, too. ET; Look at their sizing. Their measurements are accurate. I wear Levi's® relaxed fit. Draggin's relaxed fit would be massive! So would the carpenters. Plus, the kevlar on both of them goes all the way around the knee. On the classics, they're not quite all the way around where you fold your leg. The classic jean is more like your basic Levi's relaxed fit. I was worried to order jeans online. If they weren't right and all. they were perfect. Good blue color, too. Should fade right.