+1 Gerbings gear amazing! I have the liner and gloves keep warm down to 20 degrees (last winter). When I use the liner I just wear a t-shirt, liner and jacket setting only 1/4 to 1/2 and stay toasty warm. I don't have heated grips but Gerbings gloves take car of that. More expensive but last year had a glove that went bad sent it in and repair done less than 10 days (lifetime warranty on heating element).