That is a good statement Heavy, any of the guys I ride with who have "Modified" their HD's do it to be different than the rest of the pack- and race and or one up other Harleys. (or Metrics) . I don't think any of the HD guys here think thier sleds are fast, but we are not thinking their junk either. Each their own, people can like or hate whatever they want; that's why there are so many choices in the bike world.