Like I said, I need to take you shopping for a proper holster. There are far better alternatives in terms of retention, concealment, comfort and general use. Of course, none of those alternatives are as cheap as Uncle Mike's. For the money, you really can't beat Don Hume holsters. My personal preference is stuff from Fist Inc., but I'm a big kydex junky. I make it up to Toledo fairly often, so I can show you some different brands you may want to try. In fact, I'll be up next weekend for a carbine shoot, but I doubt I'll have any free time.[/quote:5ab63] yeah i have a under thge coat shoulder and a hip and a ankle but that is my fav put it behind the back and no one ever knows