Ok...1st off, this thread arguement was over with, then you just re-ignited it. 2nd off, he got his karma 3 times this year that I already mentioned to him a long time ago. 3rd off, yes most do go down, but 3 times a year isn't the average...lol. 4th off, it's normally not DROPPING a bike either, it's at speed. 5th off, I find it funny how most people that aren't regular posters have told me it's funny and true, but yet most active posters got offended by it, as if they themselves are squids and can't muster a bike yet after years of assumingly riding. Thread is dead again now.