The King Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 U voted for mcain so who is dumb? And the man does hold me back lolOnly an uneducated moron would believe that people who disagree with their point of view are dumb.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fasttc Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) Factcheck.org says less than 5% of small businesses will have an increase in taxes. But you guys can continue to believe the McPalin ticket propoganda if you'd like. You guys can hate on Obama and his policies all night. It wont help you feel better. You're still going to be pissed. No matter what myself or JRMMii will say will change your mind. Fact of the matter is that Obama... Barack H. Obama is going to be 44 and will have a library in Illinois named after him someday. This election is over and this thread is essentially over. +1 Tell that to the dumbass who started the gipping the waiter thread, Todd#43 or whatever Edited November 5, 2008 by 1fasttc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Factcheck.org says less than 5% of small businesses will have an increase in taxes. But you guys can continue to believe the McPalin ticket propoganda if you'd like. You guys can hate on Obama and his policies all night. It wont help you feel better. You're still going to be pissed. No matter what myself or JRMMii will say will change your mind. Fact of the matter is that Obama... Barack H. Obama is going to be 44 and will have a library in Illinois named after him someday. This election is over and this thread is essentially over. Don't worry... Palin 2012 anyone?!?!?!?!? LOL.I don't hate Obama..I don't care if it is 1%, why should they be punished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Or, it could be because all the greedy speculators that decided to take out bad mortgages for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rental properties and vacation home using those exact same mortgage tools that subprime lenders use, then when the bottom dropped out -- just walked away.I don't know how anyone can point to any ONE thing that cause the housing collapse.King, I have to figure you're either in the $250k plus salary range or a SBO making $250k+ for you to actually think McCain-enomics is the way to go, when the majority of economists favor Obama's plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 I do. Just a few off the top of my head:a) The world will see the US as a bit progressive and not arrogant and stupid. (It matters what they think because we can get more done internationally )b) An end to the war in sight. No more young kids getting killed for bullshit.c) Better healthcare. (maybe not this term but hopefully next)d) Improvement in race relations in America. e) Tax breaks for the middle class. (That's me.)And there we get to the unspoken crux of it allExpound to "you guys" please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 LOL. Only people who dont get what they want whine. At least u ride a suzuki or we wouldnt have anything in common. The king is Obama! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleaner Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 The economy is where it is because too many unqualified people were being given mortgages that they never could afford. See the Clinton admins efforts to lower the standards of Fannie and FreddySee the Bush admins failed attempts to change these policies in 2003...attempts shot down by Barney Frank...whatever.... The bad mortgages were not the sole cause of that. Plus the economy was bad before the mortgages started to fail. But again... Doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 King, I have to figure you're either in the $250k plus salary range or a SBO making $250k+ for you to actually think McCain-enomics is the way to go, when the majority of economists favor Obama's plan.Neither, I have always supported a flat tax... I loath the entire idea of income redistribution.Obama is going to win, and it has occured pretty much the way I assumed it would. He has promised to make it all better...And I hope he does.......I sincerely hope he is succesful and he will have my initial support.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleaner Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 And there we get to the unspoken crux of it allExpound to "you guys" pleaseDon't even start. If you think Obama won because he has dark skin you are clueless. Without a clue. What percentage of Iowans are black? "You guys" crack me up. I'm done. If you don't know what I mean by that, then insert your own commentary. It doesn't matter. CNN just called the whole damn thing. I am about to watch OUR next President of the United States thank the country. But despite our divisions: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 now that i respect king. even though i am the uneducated moron that i am i can at leat still respect u for saying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 now that i respect king. even though i am the uneducated moron that i am i can at leat still respect u for saying that.As Duke said....."knowing is half the battle" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 has anyone here met a rich person that was not crooked or had everything handed to them?Does anyone on this board know a rich person that actually fills out their tax forms correctly and correctly states their income?Is there anyone on this board rich?did anyone hear Greenspan's testimony and the flaw of his economic model? he said that the flaw in his model is that businesses and the wealthy don't have ethic's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Just so u know its not what you know its WHO u know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Just so u know its not what you know its WHO u blow!corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 d) Improvement in race relations in America.?90% of blacks voted for Obama. 40% whites voted for Obama? hmmflat tax would be best.Let's all join a Union and shut down small to medium size businesses then complain about where the jobs went. Whio ever said they don't want there boss to get a taxcut because he only gave them a 2% increase, whatever. Go start your own business and then pay your employees more than you pay yourself or more even though it might mean your running yourself in the red. But it does not matter just pay them more till your forced to shut the doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 that was clinton lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 has anyone here met a rich person that was not crooked or had everything handed to them?Does anyone on this board know a rich person that actually fills out their tax forms correctly and correctly states their income?Is there anyone on this board rich?did anyone hear Greenspan's testimony and the flaw of his economic model? he said that the flaw in his model is that businesses and the wealthy don't have ethic's.Has anyone ever met a poor person who wasn't lazy?Has anyone ever met a poor person who wasn't abusing drugs or alchohol?Yeah, sounds as stupid as what you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 I know moor poor people that are hard ass workersI know many many rich people who play golf and call their employees and bitch about the job their doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 d) Improvement in race relations in America.?90% of blacks voted for Obama. 40% whites voted for Obama? hmmflat tax would be best.Let's all join a Union and shut down small to medium size businesses then complain about where the jobs went. Whio ever said they don't want there boss to get a taxcut because he only gave them a 2% increase, whatever. Go start your own business and then pay your employees more than you pay yourself or more even though it might mean your running yourself in the red. But it does not matter just pay them more till your forced to shut the doors.Where'd those stats come from? Source?Small to Medium sized businesses aren't economically efficient in certain sectors, and the ones that are have a business model good enough to survive political change.Why would I start my own business with employees knowing I'd be running in the red? That'd be a huge mistake and poor business practice. You have to do your RESEARCH and MARKETING STUDIES before you start a business. And what good would it do to hire people knowing the business is failing and have to lay them all off 6-9 months down the road? I don't know what you mean with the 'whatever'. Whatever what? I wouldn't start a business if I wasn't sure it'd be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 I know moor poor people that are hard ass workersI know many many rich people who play golf and call their employees and bitch about the job their doing.Well that settles it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 u must be the rich golfer then? Hows it settled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 No, not rich nor a golfer. I am tired of people like you making absurd assumptions about jobs that you know nothing about?Have you been a CEO? Have you run a company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLN1223 Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 So now Obama lead is under 100k in ohio, anyone think it will change?does it matter?Since McCain gave his los speech if it turns out he winds does he still win or did he thow in the towel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Where'd those stats come from? Source?Small to Medium sized businesses aren't economically efficient in certain sectors, and the ones that are have a business model good enough to survive political change.Why would I start my own business with employees knowing I'd be running in the red? That'd be a huge mistake and poor business practice. You have to do your RESEARCH and MARKETING STUDIES before you start a business. And what good would it do to hire people knowing the business is failing and have to lay them all off 6-9 months down the road? I don't know what you mean with the 'whatever'. Whatever what? I wouldn't start a business if I wasn't sure it'd be successful.Foxnews........it was like 30 minutes ago.You wouldn't start a business running in the red if you could help it. Most originally start in the red then you work your way out it's called a business loan. To be successful maybe you could only give a 2% raise? If you were forced to then maybe you'd have to make lay offs or shut down or maybe as the boss or owner u should give yourself a paycut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Fox news... awesome. They're fair and balanced afterall. I mean, if they make an effort to TELL you their fair and balanced, then it must be so.What do you mean, if I could help it? I WOULDN'T RUN A BUSINESS IN THE RED. Unless I was running it by myself, for myself. I'm not going to risk someone elses (like an employee) livelihood on my success.And give myself a pay cut? Yea, I'll do that because that's exactly what all the other CEOs do. I've never heard of a 'golden parachute' or making millions while gutting a company from the inside out. That never happens. CEOs all do the morally just and right thing and put their needs second to the needs of their employees.You can't be serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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