shm21284 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Knock is definately of value, but not absolutely necessary when tuning an engine. If at all possible, use it. Sounds like mr. coreymdean is someone who doesn't like change, like the old guys who hate wideband O2 sensors and would rather read spark plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 My personal view on calibration is that you need both 'old school' knowledge and 'new school' science to become as well rounded as possible. Any who disregard either is just as ignorant. I will say, science will give you data to work off of, where your senses will help validate that data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1647545496 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 My personal view on calibration is that you need both 'old school' knowledge and 'new school' science to become as well rounded as possible. Any who disregard either is just as ignorant. I will say, science will give you data to work off of, where your senses will help validate that data. AGREED you have to understand the mechanics before you can tune the electronics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 I love that someone with a rotary says knock isn't that important and calls me ignorant. Priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolrayz Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 One big advantage that I heard about but was surprised to see was true with my own eyes was how clean my combustion chambers were when i pulled my heads off last winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shm21284 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I love that someone with a rotary says knock isn't that important and calls me ignorant. Priceless. Most rotary people know that once the knock sensor picks up any detectable level of knock, its all over for the engine. Good luck tuning via knock only on a rotary. EDIT: the guy who claimed knock isn't that much value has a 2000 civic si, not a rotary. What value are you adding to this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coreymdean Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 im not saying its completely unimportant. I just dont think people are truely using it whats it for. I do like change and i do like new technology. I also like old shit and think people get too caught up on what is always needed to tune an engine. Yea and i def dont have a rotary..... I believe that it is not quite right for people with knock sensor to just use those to tune their engine. Add timing till its starts to knock, then pull a few degrees back and leave it alone... yea it might work but is it truely the best way? Its something i believe would be a nice to have thing to have even for my honda... but i am also not going to go out of my way to ensure that i have one, because I am able to tune without a knock, and i am not just throwing darts at a dart board. i didnt mean it in such a personal way, i just took a lil offense to it because i most everything i have tuned has not had a knock sensor, and i believe i did a pretty good job with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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