87GT Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Also it's an ex-post facto law which is illegal under the constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Rule 36 is BS and rarely invoked. It is a direct contradiction to the 5th amendment, and will never hold up to appeal. I would refuse address it out of pride: Some jackass Hillary'ofile cooks up an accusation and you're supposed to take him seriously? I wouldn't dignify it with a response. If and when the Fed gets involved, it will be addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 But technically civil and criminal trial are two different things. Things like the 5th don't really apply to civil trails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Lets get more technical then. Federal law and my history classes in elementary school states that "...You must be a natural-born citizen to become President.." Federal law states the following for the Panama Canal Zone: "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States. This did not become the law until August 4, 1937 after he was born. So he was not a US born citizen for the first year of his life. At least that is how I interpret it as. You fail and are citing the wrong laws. He was born on a naval base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 He was born on a naval base. It doesn't matter it still wasn't within US borders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 It doesn't matter it still wasn't within US borders. Can you be any more ignorant? It does matter, it is considered US soil. Christ, how many times do I have to say this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 He Hate Me speaks the truth. A military base is considered US soil, next door to the base = not US soil, down the street from a base = not US soil, In a plane = not on any soil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 It doesn't mean he's a naturalized citizen, and you have to look at the laws on the book at the time, not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 It doesn't mean he's a naturalized citizen, and you have to look at the laws on the book at the time, not now. It was under U.S. control at the time. I don't think it's necessary to argue whether a U.S. military-serving sailor's child is a citizen or not when he was born during his father's serving time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 It doesn't mean he's a naturalized citizen, and you have to look at the laws on the book at the time, not now. Yes it does mean that. Do you want me to go home and grab one of my numerous law books to inform you of this? God you are stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I will quote myself again... Federal law states the following for the Panama Canal Zone: "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States. This did not become the law until August 4, 1937 after he was born. What year was McCain born in again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I will quote myself again... Federal law states the following for the Panama Canal Zone: "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States. This did not become the law until August 4, 1937 after he was born. What year was McCain born in again? YOU ARE QUOTING THE WRONG LAW FOR THE SITUATION. CAN YOU READ THAT WITH IT IN CAPS NOW? You are shooting in the wrong direction. It doesn't matter what that law says. He was on US soil. He could have been in Korea if there was a base there and he would be a citizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 In a plane = not on any soil. depends If the flies out of the US and the birth takes place before the plane lands Its still considered a us birth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 depends If the flies out of the US and the birth takes place before the plane lands Its still considered a us birth. True, but its in the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 True, but its in the air But, is it in US airspace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 But, is it in US airspace? or even international airspace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 or even international airspace What about internation waters?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 What about internation waters?!? internation?? What is this you speak of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 internation?? What is this you speak of? Oh noes, I failed. What about international waters?!?! There, I win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Oh noes, I failed. What about international waters?!?! There, I win? this isn't the time nor place to speak about international waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 What if you give birth in outerspace Illegal Alien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 this isn't the time nor place to speak about international waters. I'm sorry, I will accept my ban now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supldys Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Even in waters it doesnt matter, a US naval warship is still considered US soil. His mom would have been one major ho for that to happen though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Even in waters it doesnt matter, a US naval warship is still considered US soil. His mom would have been one major ho for that to happen though Lies, according to Trowa, you are lying. You have to be born within the US borders. It wouldn't even matter if the parent had been a citizen for 10 years (5 of which over the age of 14). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supldys Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 wouldn't it be great if neither of them were natural born citizens...then we could just start over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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