SpaceGhost Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 You guys forget that the biggest drug dealers in the world are pharmaceutical companies. There is not money in the cure. The money is in drugs that let you "cope/live with it". Think about it for a minute... if there was a cure for aids how much would it cost? 1 million 2 million? As kirks5oh said 10K a year on drugs to just make your life last a few more years. 10K * 10 years is 1.2 million. What if they came up with drugs that would let you live for 50 years without dying from aids. 6 million dollars per person. Times the number of infected people = more money then just curing everyone. This isn't a conspiracy theory this is just plain math. What part of my post do you not understand? I would like to point out that all meds that these companies make, they only own them for a few years until they have to turn over the info so they can be made generic. They pour in a billion or so to get it approved by the FDA, they only have a few years to make it back before it goes Generic, so your cash cow theory does not hold water. It's the generic companies that have the long term interest, and don't have to spend a billion or so in FDA approval. They sit back and get handed the formula. If there is a long term plan to sell a drug it is with the generic companies. Although they are not the ones spending the money coming up with new drugs and doing the research. Trust me Pfizer, Sanofi-Aventis, AstraZeneca, and local employer Abbott Laboratories have no plans long term to sell a drug, they only get to do so in this country for a few years. Then it's off to another drug. After all they are "Drug companies". But by all means let's bash them, and compare them to "illegal drug dealers" I mean when one of their long discovered drugs saves the life of a one of your children or loved ones, you should spit in the face of the companies that developed these drugs. My wife gave an experimental drug to a young woman recently who had 4 daughters and a husband away in the military. She became septic for some reason and was not responding to any current treatment, and was on a vent with 2 major organs going into failure. She was not expected to live, her daughters begged my wife for the drug, she qualified for the clinical trial and she walked out of that hospital. It was her last hope. This is why I'm sure my wife loves her job, even though there are some patients that don't make it. It must be so rewarding to help a family like this. But oh wait these manufacturers are bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 The money scam is not as much on the physicians side as it is on the Pharm side. The pharm companies make billions from vaccines every year, they just pimp the product through a bunch of guys that do what they are told. Why should the MD's question it anyhow, it is a great source of patient flow. Kind of like a pimp and whore relationship, the whore just does what she is told (guidelines) or she gets beat up (license revocation). clueless=you doctors' offices make next to nothing from vaccination visits. i know this because the last time we had this argument i talked with several pediatrician friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 clueless=you doctors' offices make next to nothing from vaccination visits. i know this because the last time we had this argument i talked with several pediatrician friends. And you still cant read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 And you still cant read. i can read and comprehend just fine. thought you might be interested in this http://cgi.ebay.com/77-L-30-W-4-Pad-Pink-Reiki-Portable-Massage-Table_W0QQitemZ130287447716QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item130287447716&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) i can read and comprehend just fine. thought you might be interested in this http://cgi.ebay.com/77-L-30-W-4-Pad-Pink-Reiki-Portable-Massage-Table_W0QQitemZ130287447716QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item130287447716&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 wow, you are so original.. I think that is only the 100th time you have confused what I do with an MT. That is like me comparing you to this. http://www.campnet.net/detroit-mi/campphotos/MeatButcher.jpg Edited February 15, 2009 by HAOLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 i thought it was funny. and i'm sure you have tables just like the one i posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I would like to point out that all meds that these companies make, they only own them for a few years until they have to turn over the info so they can be made generic. They pour in a billion or so to get it approved by the FDA, they only have a few years to make it back before it goes Generic, so your cash cow theory does not hold water. I would have to disagree, because the drug will only be available for specific set of years before the patent expires, I believe that would encourage a company to draw out those years as much as possible, than make slight improvements in order to bring out a new drug that is mildly more effective, or has less side effects, or whatever. I don't know these things, nor do I claim them to be fact, I just think it makes business sense. Just watch the pharm commercials ... it is a product, they wouldn't want to lose your "business" anymore than your cable company wants to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) The actual cost of the drugs is not the problem http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080105140107.htm ScienceDaily (Jan. 7, 2008) — A new study by two York University researchers estimates the U.S. pharmaceutical industry spends almost twice as much on promotion as it does on research and development, contrary to the industry’s claim. http://hms.harvard.edu/public/news/ss0808/090108_soumerai.html Currently, the United States and New Zealand are the only countries that allow drug companies to advertise directly to consumers. Edited February 16, 2009 by LJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 you're right on that^^ i spend half of the visit explaining to an 80 year old, why she's not a candidate for a hip replacement designed for a 50 year old, because she saw an ad in some magazine, and decided to google a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I figured you just originally thought 10k/month Every future post I will filter through my TI-82 first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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