BDHG940 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 I dont have a car here yet to lay out a design yet but it will be soon. Just have to find a good enough deal on a car and Ill get started. Hopefully someone can give me a few pointer so we can get started off in the right direction My main question is what routing is the most popular or what would you want to see? I know there are some kits using a 6l truck manifold I believe, I see the ebay hotside that routes out the back and around the driverside, etc. Does anyone have photos of how the radiator is moved? I havent seen anything clear and I know people have mentioned that will be essential on the f-body application. Will the same kit be a bolt on application on the Firebird/Trans-am if we are mocking up on a Camaro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigZach Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Pm 1slow-z for info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Retain the AC. Use truck manifolds. The radiator support needs cut so the radiator stands straight up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDHG940 Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 So they are taking the truck manifolds and then flip them forward, left and right? Any specific years I should start looking for? Is it possible to use the stock kmember and keep the accessories yet have room to route the downpipe without going under it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 So they are taking the truck manifolds and then flip them forward, left and right? Any specific years I should start looking for? Is it possible to use the stock kmember and keep the accessories yet have room to route the downpipe without going under it? Chad, if truck manifolds are used the A/C must be removed. Most people try to stay away from the truck manifold kits due to that reason. On any turbo kit where the turbo is mounted directly infront of the motor you will have to remove the stock fan and get a pusher fan. Here are some pictures of the APS twin kit where the A/C can remain http://www.ls1speed.com/xx_fbodysupercar.cfm?KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=500&width=600 Here are pictures and information on the truck manifold kits http://kentuckyturboandperformance.com/photos.html This is a great read for truck manifolds http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1303972-how-diy-build-truck-manifold-kit.html This guy has two different setups in his build thread http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1215551-98-camaro-370ci-t76-build-up.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinHawk1647545499 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 So they are taking the truck manifolds and then flip them forward, left and right? Any specific years I should start looking for? Is it possible to use the stock kmember and keep the accessories yet have room to route the downpipe without going under it? only with a small downpipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDHG940 Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 So aps is the one ones that are doing a kit that keeps ac? Are a lot of the guys opposed to doing a kmember to allow for more room like we do on the mod motor kits? I can have manifolds cast but really wanted to stay away from doing something like that for now. The nice part about the truck manifolds would be that I know who makes them. I wouldnt have to find them used Looks like that last link you posted linn, the guy ended up back with truck manifolds in the end. The only down fall is going to be having to lose the a/c? Call me later if you get a minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 TTi's street kit keeps the AC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDHG940 Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Ill check that out then to see how its routed, do they still allow you to use the stock kmember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Yes. They use small spacers to lower the front sway bar to get around the clearance issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 http://kentuckyturboandperformance.com/index.html they have all the info you need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brent1976 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Could you get some flanges, and make two log style manifolds? I know where to get all the flanges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Chad here is the TTI kit http://www.turbotechnologyinc.com/site/?page_id=113 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDHG940 Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I guess its going to come down to me finding a car and just throwing together a design. I think after talking with linn, I will do most likely two systems. One being the truck manifolds as it will be the easiest and cheapest kit we can product that will work good. Downfall you lose the a/c and I really personally dont like that and wouldnt want it. I know people out there dont care about that so Ill produce it two ways. Hell I can mock that setup in a few days its so simple. I think then Ill do a tubular setup that will be forward facing and from what I can tell that should allow me to keep the a/c. Basing this all of just research online here. This will cost more but I know Ill come in with a kit that is easy on the wallet and have some potential for some pretty decent hp numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDHG940 Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Chad here is the TTI kit http://www.turbotechnologyinc.com/site/?page_id=113 wow they make some nice shit, expensive but nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkmaster03 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I've heard but can not verify that you can use a C6 stock manifold to get the clearance by the AC on a forward setup. I'll try and find it on ls1tech. My offer is still good Chad if your interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 These work with out relocating anything http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/42925/2991634030047301034S600x600Q85.jpg Here are some good pics of the kit with the motor out of the car. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1234344-want-pics-stainless-works-down-forward-turbo-headers.html http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1207536-stainless-works-up-foward-ls1-turbo-headers.html Pictures on page 3 http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1111895-turbo-headers-3.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brent1976 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I was thinking similar to /\, only with a log style header instead of an actual header. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 wow come on its spelled out for you. the link i posted just answered the questions for you. there is a a/c kit and a non a/c kit. Yes in the setup you can use c6 manifolds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 wow they make some nice shit, expensive but nice IPS used thier exhaust manifold on Tilly"s car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinHawk1647545499 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 yes you can use a c6 manifold on the driverside and depending on how you route it. the only way you are going to get into the market is with an inexpensive kit. I have seen so many turbo companies pop up and go under because they thought they could do it but couldnt. Others have over shot the price targets and didnt sell any. honestly the fbody turbo market is not a good idea, it is cut throat and is very rarely profitable. People want the world in terms of turbokits for pennies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinHawk1647545499 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 These work with out relocating anything http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/42925/2991634030047301034S600x600Q85.jpg Here are some good pics of the kit with the motor out of the car. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1234344-want-pics-stainless-works-down-forward-turbo-headers.html http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1207536-stainless-works-up-foward-ls1-turbo-headers.html Pictures on page 3 http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1111895-turbo-headers-3.html no you still have to relocate the radiator, aka move it forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinHawk1647545499 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 So aps is the one ones that are doing a kit that keeps ac? Are a lot of the guys opposed to doing a kmember to allow for more room like we do on the mod motor kits? I can have manifolds cast but really wanted to stay away from doing something like that for now. The nice part about the truck manifolds would be that I know who makes them. I wouldnt have to find them used Looks like that last link you posted linn, the guy ended up back with truck manifolds in the end. The only down fall is going to be having to lose the a/c? Call me later if you get a minute aps does not support the fbody market anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 aps does not support the fbody market anymore. The kit is still offered on their site along with a number of others http://www.airpowersystems.com/fbody/tts2.htm http://www.speedinc.com/turbo.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNova Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I have a pair of truck manifolds and a pair of c6 manifolds Id sell if you want for mock up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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