knicks360 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 So just ordered my full ti force ti system (high mount) this past friday and was wondering which I should get next k@n airlfilter or pcIII ?? This is for a complete stock 05 750.Ps. cant order both at the same time cause the women will kill me but I know once they come in the mail ill install em asap and just want to do it right the first time.Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jermattak Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 huh? isnt there a 250 dollar price difference in the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyen Soljax Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 doesnt matter. youre going to want to wait to install either till you have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knicks360 Posted March 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Yeah sure is but i might be able to get away with $220 for the pcIII by itself both not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotaman88210 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 you NEED the PC first man!! MUST HAVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1Limited Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 PCIII- recheck that K&N, there are some better manufacturers out there. Unless you have your heart set... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jermattak Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 oooh, your getting both, yeah, wait, you really wont see a gain from either until you have the pc tuned for the pipe and filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotaman88210 Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 You really shouldnt run a full system with-out the PC. Its not healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knicks360 Posted March 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Dont have my heart set i just have the k@n in my car and figure its a great product. but reading different forums this BMC doesnt sound to bad and only about $10 more..PCIII- recheck that K&N, there are some better manufacturers out there. Unless you have your heart set... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyen Soljax Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 i know this has been posted 1000+ times, but to take advantage of the increased airflow from an aftermarket filter and exhaust (more airfloe through the engine), you need to adjust the air fuel mixture so the engine gets more fuel. more air with the same fuel isnt going to give you anything worthwhile.thats why you need the pc3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I actually ran the Ti-Force Ti system on my 2005 GSXR750. It was a full on race prepped machine that can be verified as far as how fast it was by a good number of members on here. I ran a PC III USB and a BMC filter - NOT oiled.K&N is not the best choice. But, it isn't the worse. OEM is fine, too really...BUT, you REALLY need to get a PC III for your bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knicks360 Posted March 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Said like a true gentlmen.. Ill just have to wait to hook up the 2 no need spending all this money and not getting anything from it.i know this has been posted 1000+ times, but to take advantage of the increased airflow from an aftermarket filter and exhaust (more airfloe through the engine), you need to adjust the air fuel mixture so the engine gets more fuel. more air with the same fuel isnt going to give you anything worthwhile.thats why you need the pc3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Ramey Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 i put the pc3 and k&n on my bike with a yosi slip on pipe...took the tune they had already for the pipe and filter and downloaded it on the pc3 and i can feel a differents more throttle respounse everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 buy the power commander first..then buy a bmc race filter..f- k&n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knicks360 Posted March 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Yeah that BMC seems to be the choice of most guys with alot of riding under there belts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I actually ran the Ti-Force Ti system on my 2005 GSXR750. It was a full on race prepped machine that can be verified as far as how fast it was by a good number of members on here. I ran a PC III USB and a BMC filter - NOT oiled.K&N is not the best choice. But, it isn't the worse. OEM is fine, too really...BUT, you REALLY need to get a PC III for your bike.When you say "Not Oiled" do you never use the oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 theres a few write ups that say the oem flows better than the bmc race..dyno numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 When you say "Not Oiled" do you never use the oil?We clean them and run them dry. The oil causes them to be inconsistant in terms of air flow. Of course, running them dry or VERY light oil, you need to clean them after every weekend...Street guys? I'd run it oiled like it suggested in the directions. You aren't going to notice an issue or difference. It's one of those things where even the slightest gain in power can be helpful.On the liter bike I have now? Stock. How needs extra power when you have almost 190 at the ground, right?;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyen Soljax Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 theres a few write ups that say the oem flows better than the bmc race..dyno numbersmy r6 probably made higher HP numbers with the stock filter because i dont have a PC3 to do new fuel maps with my pipe and filter. its all about the brains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 many write ups include pc3's..they were getting more hp with the oem filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLovin Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 my r6 probably made higher HP numbers with the stock filter because i dont have a PC3 to do new fuel maps with my pipe and filter. its all about the brains....it is about the brains and obviously you did not use yours when you cut your K&N with scissors in order to fit it in your air box :???:. Your degree in progress as an engineer must make following instructions damn near impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktalon606 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) PC first... K&N later. The PC alone will net you more HP under all conditions than the K&N under optimal conditions. The K&N without the PC won't do shit. Your wasting your time to do it any other way. Edited March 20, 2009 by blacktalon606 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 doesnt matter. youre going to want to wait to install either till you have both.K and N plus scissors = :DBenyen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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