OneRunnin72SST Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) I recently placed an order for 1000 rounds of 62 gr PMC 5.56 for what I thought was an ok deal. The cost was $.31 delivered from the armory online. http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product1577.html I will post a review upon receipt and test fire. -Erik Edited February 22, 2011 by OneRunnin72SST post not complete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Green tip M855? Standard NATO ball ammo. I buy Lake City M855 to run in my LMT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 That x-tac is pretty decent ammo. The brass is halfway decent for reloading, and it's much much better condition-wise and quality-wise than the XM193 that I've picked up recently. One of the perks of buying new, not seconds ammo. The x-tac I have shoots right about 3 MOA with some ARs and just about 2 MOA in another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneRunnin72SST Posted February 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Green tip M855? Standard NATO ball ammo. I buy Lake City M855 to run in my LMT. This is green tipped M855. That same site has 990 rounds of Lake City M855 for $259 plus shipping. I was thinking about ordering some of that after I try this stuff. -Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 PMC was given a government contract to supply NATO M855 and from what I heard they opened another factory in South Korea under The supervision of Americans. I've heard horror stories about the British 5.56. I've shot 7.62X51mm PMC through my M1A and it's been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 What kind of horror stories with the British ammo? I've never had a malfunction shooting with the British 5.56 ammo, in fact, it's pretty consistent shooting surplus, but check out what I discovered in one of the spent cases... This is RORG 92 (Royal Ordinance Radway Green) http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/misc/MysteryPiece2.jpg http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/misc/mysteryPiece1.jpg The hole in the piece of scrap brass is from my decapping pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Dayum! The horror stories were from Iraq. Some units down in southern Iraq with the Brits, supposedly were issued British made 5.56. Said there were a number of pop and no kick (failure to fire even when the pin struck the primer) It may have been a few cases of the stuff, but I heard a few say it didn't cycle well through M16/M4's. I've always felt pretty confident in seeing LC stamped on all my rounds. Even the M118LR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I've shot about 1500 rounds of the RORG ammo without any issues, but it does tend to be a little slower than the LC rounds I've had. I'd almost say the earlier (89') headstamped ammo is weaker. I've never found any junk in the brass though, and I've reloaded a good bit of it. Yikes! Go post that on arfcom so all the ninnies liquidate their stash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneRunnin72SST Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Dayum! The horror stories were from Iraq. Some units down in southern Iraq with the Brits, supposedly were issued British made 5.56. Said there were a number of pop and no kick (failure to fire even when the pin struck the primer) It may have been a few cases of the stuff, but I heard a few say it didn't cycle well through M16/M4's. I've always felt pretty confident in seeing LC stamped on all my rounds. Even the M118LR Where do you purchase your Lake City and what does it typically run? Is it new or reloaded by Lake City? -Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Where do you purchase your Lake City and what does it typically run? Is it new or reloaded by Lake City? -Erik I go to http://www.palmettostatearmory.com They get it out quick, and at a decent price. It maybe reloaded, but I'm not 100%. It is deffinately dependable ammo to run in most AR's with a 1:7 twist. Not that you can't run it through a 1:9 twist barrel, but it was designed for the 1:7 twist barrel. For instance, a 300 round bulk pack of M855 is about $110. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) 1:9 is enough twist to stabilize the 62 gr. length bullets. I think that the 1:9 will even stabilize the longer 62 gr. tracer bullets. Edit: After taking another look at the 62gr. tracers, I think it might take a 1:7 twist for a stable flight... has anyone shot these out of a 1:9? Sorry for the blurry photo. From left to right... 55 gr., 55 gr tracer, 62 gr (SS109), 62 gr. tracer. http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/misc/5_56bullets.jpg Edited February 24, 2011 by jjjxlr8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don 95Vert Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Fin Fur and Feather in Ashland has Federal FMJ 55g 5.56 for $5.99/20 and Federal Tactical .223 FMJ 55g also for $5.99/20. Works out to $0.30. Got a bunch today. Didn't have much of the .223, but had cases of the 5.56 - but my guess is it'll be soon gone. All brass. May not be the best available but for target shooting, it's a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast5gp Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I have shot PP M855 and obtained great results. I like the LC stuff as well, I usually go between the two depending on which one is cheaper. I always wondered about the X-tac, but since the cost difference wasn't significant, i didn't want to risk it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 1:9 is enough twist to stabilize the 62 gr. length bullets. I think that the 1:9 will even stabilize the longer 62 gr. tracer bullets. Edit: After taking another look at the 62gr. tracers, I think it might take a 1:7 twist for a stable flight... has anyone shot these out of a 1:9? Sorry for the blurry photo. From left to right... 55 gr., 55 gr tracer, 62 gr (SS109), 62 gr. tracer. http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/misc/5_56bullets.jpg I like to stay on the safe side with NATO ammo. Nothing wrong with a 1:9 twist, but I stick to my LMT w/ 1:7 twist for NATO rounds or the heavier 77 grain goodies. I've oy shot about 20 rounds of the MK262 stuff (I believe that's the nomenclature). Buddy hooked me up after he went to the All Army rifle shoot @ FT.Benning. With the 55 grain stuff, I never really noticed a difference in groups between my S&W or my LMT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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