93fox Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Read here.... http://m.yahoo.com/news?.ybx=hero#/stories/article?cat=top-stories&id=ap%2Fus_us_iraq&ref_w=frontdoors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Maybe Obama should stop taking credit for things that Bush did. And maybe the American Sheeple should stop believing his bullshit..... The U.S.-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement was approved by the Iraqi government on December 4, 2008.[245] It establishes that U.S. combat forces will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and that all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I saw them moving a bunch of troops out while I was there in 09/10... Can some one copy and paste the artical so I can read it here at work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODoyle Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 President Barack Obama on Friday declared an end to the Iraq war, one of the longest and most divisive conflicts in U.S. history, announcing that all American troops would be withdrawn from the country by year's end. Obama's statement put an end to months of wrangling over whether the U.S. would maintain a force in Iraq beyond 2011. He never mentioned the tense and ultimately fruitless negotiations with Iraq over whether to keep several thousand U.S. forces there as a training force and a hedge against meddling from Iran or other outside forces. Instead, Obama spoke of a promise kept, a new day for a self-reliant Iraq and a focus on building up the economy at home. "I can report that, as promised, the rest of our troops in Iraq will come home by the end of the year," Obama said. "After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over." Obama spoke after a private video conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, and he offered assurances that the two leaders agreed on the decision. The U.S. military presence in Iraq stands at just under 40,000. All U.S. troops are to exit the country in accordance with a deal struck between the countries in 2008 when George W. Bush was president. Obama, an opponent of the war from the start, took office and accelerated the end of the conflict. In August 2010, he declared the U.S. combat mission over. "Over the next two months our troops in Iraq, tens of thousands of them, will pack up their gear and board convoys for the journey home," Obama said. "The last American soldier will cross the border out of Iraq with their heads held high, proud of their success and knowing that the American people stand united in our support for our troops." More than 4,400 American military members have been killed since the U.S. and its allies invaded Iraq in March 2003. The Associated Press first reported last week that the United States would not keep troops in Iraq past the year-end withdrawal deadline, except for some soldiers attached to the U.S. Embassy. Denis McDonough, the White House's deputy national security adviser, said that in addition to the standard Marine security detail, the U.S. will also have 4,000 to 5,000 contractors to provide security for U.S. diplomats, including at the U.S. embassy in Baghdad and U.S. consulates in Basra and Erbil. In recent months, Washington had been discussing with Iraqi leaders the possibility of several thousand American troops remaining to continue training Iraqi security forces. Throughout the discussions, Iraqi leaders refused to give U.S. troops immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts, and the Americans refused to stay without that guarantee. Moreover, Iraq's leadership has been split on whether it wanted American forces to stay. When the 2008 agreement requiring all U.S. forces to leave Iraq was passed, many U.S. officials assumed it would inevitably be renegotiated so that Americans could stay longer. The U.S. said repeatedly this year it would entertain an offer from the Iraqis to have a small force stay behind, and the Iraqis said they would like American military help. But as the year wore on and the number of American troops that Washington was suggesting could stay behind dropped, it became increasingly clear that a U.S. troop presence was not a sure thing. The issue of legal protection for the Americans was the deal-breaker. But administration officials said they feel confident that the Iraqi security forces are well prepared to take the lead in their country. McDonough said assessment after assessment of the preparedness of Iraqi forces concluded that "these guys are ready; these guys are capable; these guys are proven; importantly, they're proven because they've been tested in a lot of the kinds of threats that they're going to see going forward."So we feel very good about that."Pulling troops out by the end of this year allows both al-Maliki and Obama to claim victory.Obama kept a campaign promise to end the war, and al-Maliki will have ended the American presence and restored Iraqi sovereignty.The president used the war statement to once again turn attention back to the economy, the domestic concern that is expected to determine whether he wins re-election next year."After a decade of war the nation that we need to build and the nation that we will build is our own, an America that sees its economic strength restored just as we've restored our leadership around the globe." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOxley Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 we were moving a bunch of shit out a couple months ago. DOS is moving in, not to mention, all of the contractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 we were moving a bunch of shit out a couple months ago. DOS is moving in, not to mention, all of the contractors. Yay! Back to work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Maybe Obama should stop taking credit for things that Bush did. And maybe the American Sheeple should stop believing his bullshit..... Is Obama in a position to extend or request an extension to our support in Iraq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 im gonna work for a contractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Is Obama in a position to extend or request an extension to our support in Iraq? If Iraq agreed to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 If he did nothing, they would come home by Dec 31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 So he is basically part of the decision that agrees that the first decision was right. Makes scents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I do not read it like HE is taking credit. But, I have heard talk of folks staying after the deadline. Sounds like he just said that is NOT the case. That's just my anti-republican / anti-democrat / anti-politician POV. President Barack Obama on Friday declared an end to the Iraq war, one of the longest and most divisive conflicts in U.S. history, announcing that all American troops would be withdrawn from the country by year's end. Obama's statement put an end to months of wrangling over whether the U.S. would maintain a force in Iraq beyond 2011. He never mentioned the tense and ultimately fruitless negotiations with Iraq over whether to keep several thousand U.S. forces there as a training force and a hedge against meddling from Iran or other outside forces. Instead, Obama spoke of a promise kept, a new day for a self-reliant Iraq and a focus on building up the economy at home. "I can report that, as promised, the rest of our troops in Iraq will come home by the end of the year," Obama said. "After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over." Obama spoke after a private video conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, and he offered assurances that the two leaders agreed on the decision. The U.S. military presence in Iraq stands at just under 40,000. All U.S. troops are to exit the country in accordance with a deal struck between the countries in 2008 when George W. Bush was president. Obama, an opponent of the war from the start, took office and accelerated the end of the conflict. In August 2010, he declared the U.S. combat mission over. "Over the next two months our troops in Iraq, tens of thousands of them, will pack up their gear and board convoys for the journey home," Obama said. "The last American soldier will cross the border out of Iraq with their heads held high, proud of their success and knowing that the American people stand united in our support for our troops." More than 4,400 American military members have been killed since the U.S. and its allies invaded Iraq in March 2003. The Associated Press first reported last week that the United States would not keep troops in Iraq past the year-end withdrawal deadline, except for some soldiers attached to the U.S. Embassy. Denis McDonough, the White House's deputy national security adviser, said that in addition to the standard Marine security detail, the U.S. will also have 4,000 to 5,000 contractors to provide security for U.S. diplomats, including at the U.S. embassy in Baghdad and U.S. consulates in Basra and Erbil. In recent months, Washington had been discussing with Iraqi leaders the possibility of several thousand American troops remaining to continue training Iraqi security forces. Throughout the discussions, Iraqi leaders refused to give U.S. troops immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts, and the Americans refused to stay without that guarantee. Moreover, Iraq's leadership has been split on whether it wanted American forces to stay. When the 2008 agreement requiring all U.S. forces to leave Iraq was passed, many U.S. officials assumed it would inevitably be renegotiated so that Americans could stay longer. The U.S. said repeatedly this year it would entertain an offer from the Iraqis to have a small force stay behind, and the Iraqis said they would like American military help. But as the year wore on and the number of American troops that Washington was suggesting could stay behind dropped, it became increasingly clear that a U.S. troop presence was not a sure thing. The issue of legal protection for the Americans was the deal-breaker. But administration officials said they feel confident that the Iraqi security forces are well prepared to take the lead in their country. McDonough said assessment after assessment of the preparedness of Iraqi forces concluded that "these guys are ready; these guys are capable; these guys are proven; importantly, they're proven because they've been tested in a lot of the kinds of threats that they're going to see going forward."So we feel very good about that."Pulling troops out by the end of this year allows both al-Maliki and Obama to claim victory.Obama kept a campaign promise to end the war, and al-Maliki will have ended the American presence and restored Iraqi sovereignty.The president used the war statement to once again turn attention back to the economy, the domestic concern that is expected to determine whether he wins re-election next year."After a decade of war the nation that we need to build and the nation that we will build is our own, an America that sees its economic strength restored just as we've restored our leadership around the globe." KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Maybe Obama should stop taking credit for things that Bush did. And maybe the American Sheeple should stop believing his bullshit..... I didn't read anything that said he took credit for it; maybe I missed something. Clue us in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 If you think about it the president is really just a spokesperson for the decisions of the majority anyway. This falls in line with his job title. Its like how presidents win wars when in reality they dont do any fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I didn't read anything that said he took credit for it; maybe I missed something. Clue us in? He has promised since the election that HE would end the war. The agreement that it would end was ratified before he ever took office. Since December 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I do not read it like HE is taking credit. But, I have heard talk of folks staying after the deadline. Sounds like he just said that is NOT the case. That's just my anti-republican / anti-democrat / anti-politician POV. KillJoy So he decided to agree with the SOFA that was in place before he came into office. In other words, he did nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 He didnt push to extend it. It may not be a lot but its something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 So he decided to agree with the SOFA that was in place before he came into office. In other words, he did nothing. God damn I'm glad I do not view the world as you do! :dumb: KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 God damn I'm glad I do not view the world as you do! :dumb: KillJoy You are glad you ignore reality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 He didnt push to extend it. It may not be a lot but its something. In other words, he did nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 You are glad you ignore reality? Do you dislike all Democrats? Or just President Obama? KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Do you dislike all Democrats? Or just President Obama? KillJoy Neither Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 We'll see what happens after our Military footprint has left. The Iraqi security forces are leaps and bounds ahead of the Afghan security forces. Not sure if that's enough for them to do what's right though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Do you dislike all Democrats? Or just President Obama? KillJoy Both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDHG940 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Glad they're coming home, because it cost a lot of money to keep this bullshit going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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