JuicedH22 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Just watched some of the price of street races, I would be horrible out gunned and need to pray for a breakout. Run knights, and sandbag. That's what most do in both those classes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Run knights, and sandbag. That's what most do in both those classes I take it there is really no monitering then? I have sandbaged a 13.0 index before and done pretty well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil Posted July 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Damn this sounds like a blast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicedH22 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I take it there is really no monitering then? I have sandbaged a 13.0 index before and done pretty well... the 'rule' is no use of gtech's.... but people still sneak and use them. Follow the rules, which I have listed in my thread, and dont break out, and the cash is yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicedH22 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 PS, let me know if you CR dorks decide to come down, so I can make sure to show up.... and maybe get some call outs going... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 the 'rule' is no use of gtech's.... but people still sneak and use them. Follow the rules, which I have listed in my thread, and dont break out, and the cash is yours. I would love for someone to use a gtech, will make it easier on me to pace them and take the stripe :gabe: If I can get some things together I will try to make it down and let you know. I think Edgewater is about the only track in Ohio I have not ran on yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 If you pace them, and the are right on the spot, and you take the line, you lose. Ask me how I know. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 If you pace them, and the are right on the spot, and you take the line, you lose. Ask me how I know. Lol. That is why you cut the better light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 There is no light....and if you break out, you lose if the other guy doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 There is no light....and if you break out, you lose if the other guy doesn't. Leave off the wrist and you should be good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Your just not understanding how this works. You can't pace and then beat someone if they are on pace for say an 11.50 run....you lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbomb Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Looks like my last tnl for me until i get some QTP's. They changed some rules around last night. No trailers on the property, you must drive in now. No generators or cooling between rounds. You must return to the lanes after your win. Im glad they changed it around a little and aim it at TRUE street cars.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 No trailers...or no trailers on property? I come a Long way when I come, I'll be damned If I'm Not at least bringing my trailer with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Your just not understanding how this works. You can't pace and then beat someone if they are on pace for say an 11.50 run....you lose. No, I understand it very well. I have done my fair share of bracket racing and went the the semi-finals of a national event. Look at any of the indexes for NHRA class racing, all about cutting a good light and being able to drive the car at the top end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 But you aren't getting it...there's no reaction time to look at since it's off hand drop, there's no RT on your slip...it doesn't exist, first thing you get is 60' time. What your saying to do doesn't work at this event. This isn't bracket racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 But you aren't getting it...there's no reaction time to look at since it's off hand drop, there's no RT on your slip...it doesn't exist, first thing you get is 60' time. What your saying to do doesn't work at this event. This isn't bracket racing. So what are you leaving off of hopes and dreams? You have to react off the hand drop right? I don't give to shits and a fuck about the RT on a slip for this, you are correct it is not needed. I just need to leave better than the other person right? Hence have a better reaction right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Go back and watch some of the old Pinks and Pinks all out, winners are made by being able to understand how to leave or react to the arm drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Tripple because I am a mother fuckin lumberjack on the tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 No trailers...or no trailers on property? I come a Long way when I come, I'll be damned If I'm Not at least bringing my trailer with me. Prolly have I park your trailer somewhere else and drive the car you are racing onto the property. I like that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 No trailers...or no trailers on property? I come a Long way when I come, I'll be damned If I'm Not at least bringing my trailer with me. This might just apply to the king of street cars? I agree there is no way in hell I would leave a trailor full of tools and gear someplace where I cannot be around it. That is a great way to kill the event having stupid rules like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Yes Wagner, but leaving off a hand drop you can't "tree" someone if your both on route to say a perfect 11.49 pass and beat the guy to the line FTW....beating him would mean you broke out and he gets the win. Last time I broke out 2nd round by .018 FTL...that sucked. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Prolly have I park your trailer somewhere else and drive the car you are racing onto the property. I like that idea. This might just apply to the king of street cars? I agree there is no way in hell I would leave a trailor full of tools and gear someplace where I cannot be around it. That is a great way to kill the event having stupid rules like this. Yeah I'm not leaving my trailer outside...I'll drive there but my trailers coming behind something else just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Yes Wagner, but leaving off a hand drop you can't "tree" someone if your both on route to say a perfect 11.49 pass and beat the guy to the line FTW....beating him would mean you broke out and he gets the win. Last time I broke out 2nd round by .018 FTL...that sucked. Lol. In theory you should be able to tree someone off a hand drop, that is how the lady who won Pinks All Out at Norwalk won. She made the guy she was racing look flat dumb just donkey punching him off the line 2 of the 3 races in the final. I really felt bad for the guy to be honest. To what you are saying, yes you could still break out. I have lost several races by not lifting enough at the end and losing by stupid close margins like .018, I feel your pain. If you want to win at bracket or index racing you need to run at least .2 under the index and sandbag a bit. This arm drop stuff just makes it a little more difficult and you really have to know your car, how to drive, and make very quick decsions at the big end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 This is acutally a pretty good debate to have and I wonder also how the timing system works with the armdrop. How do they measure your 60' without the tree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Yeah I'm not leaving my trailer outside...I'll drive there but my trailers coming behind something else just in case. oh yeah thats true. i didnt think about that factor. screw it im not racing until the dsm is done so i wont have to worry about it this yr proly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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