Ahmadi6490 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Things may be getting serious, i'm glad the sheriff and peace officers have our back. I suspect the UN would be deployed if they really wanted their way http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-executive-orders-on-guns-would-spark-mass-resistance.html “Hopefully this will spread like fire throughout the country, and the people will stand up and say, you know what, enough is enough, and under the Tenth Amendment, which grants the power of nullification of unconstitutional laws, we’re going to recognize this as unconstitutional, we’re not going to enforce it, we’re going to make sure this doesn’t happen,” Chief Kessler told The New American in an interview, adding that the Second Amendment was clear. “We want to do this peacefully, we don’t want any kind of violence whatsoever — I’m totally against that — I just want to see a peaceful resolution to this. And under the Tenth Amendment, hopefully we can accomplish this through the nullification process.” “If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to kill any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty,” wrote Dean Garrison with The D.C. Clothesline in a controversial blog post that has since gone viral online, garnering hundreds of thousands of readers, maybe millions. “To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to kill them. You are protected by our constitution.” Of course, nobody wants to see violence, as virtually every prominent gun rights activist and supporter of the Constitution has said on numerous occasions. However, judging from the increasingly brazen assaults on the Second Amendment and the defiant attitude among firearm owners, who are buying weapons in record numbers, it has become clear that any and all efforts to further infringe on gun rights will be met with fierce opposition. First, political and legal means will be used. If those resistance strategies become futile, though, where this conflict might lead remains a matter of serious concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think politicians (and increasingly the general public) have gotten way too wrapped up in political speak. Their main job seems to be to advocate for the exact opposite of whatever their rival wants. They make bold statements and predictions in front of news cameras, lie more often than not, and there are never any kind of repercussions for their actions. They play dirtier than they accuse their opponents of playing. They count on the fact that a tiny percentage of us will actually fact check them and see their bold-faced lies. They stick their chests out and declare how they know best. They act and react blindly on little-to-no factual information to gain a couple cool points with their target voter's demographic segment. If the law doesn't allow them to do what their spoiled asses wish to do, they find an obviously illegal backdoor to get their way. Why? Again, because they know nobody on the opposing side has any balls to call them out on it and Joe Blow doesn't care enough to do anything. Maybe what they need is to be spoken to in a slightly more clear manor, more often, as in the OP's post. "I have paid for fat poor people's chips and soda too long; I want to stop now, thanks." "They are not undocumented citizens. They are illegals. They need to go. They should not be allowed to have city IDs and go to an American university for free. Thanks." "You may not have my neighbor's guns. Or mine. I'm not being a hardass - there are a dozen reasons why I am right and you are wrong on this topic." "How can you vote over and over to support an abortion at 9 months, including killing any baby that makes it through the abortion - and then stand in front of the cameras and shed a tear for 20 kids murdered in CT? 1000x that many kids are taken every month. You gave the top abortion company in the nation a record amount of my money in 2012. I don't agree to this, ok?" "You lied. You need impeached now." "Yes, you do have a spending problem. You have a gigantic problem. Stop it. "The first thing you can cut if you fail to pass a budget is your own salary and retirement contributions. You can stop threatening my grandparents' social security checks (the money you borrowed for 40 years and are nice enough to give back) or my buddy's military paycheck. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 1) The Constitution protects your right to bear arms. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say you are independently allowed to determine appropriate use of lethal force when it comes to defending your rights. If someone doesn't allow you to freely practice your religion, do you have the right to kill them? No. 2) There is a significant misunderstanding of the 10th Amendment. It doesn't say that if States don't like a Federal law, they don't have to enforce it. See Cooper v Aaron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStowers023 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 The guy that runs that site also hates Jews, believes that 9/11 was an inside job and believes in weird secret societies. I wouldn't take much from that site literal, the dude is a nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 1) If someone doesn't allow you to freely practice your religion, do you have the right to kill them? No. Wars were fought in part over this very thing. Including one that ultimately resulted in there even being a United Sates Constitution and Bill of Rights. Were they justified? Not for me to say. Pilgrims didn't come here to learn how to grow corn. I understand your points, and I am not advocating unloading your gun on anyone knocking on your door and "taking your guns"... I don't believe we will ever see that day. Why? Well, because we have so many guns. We have gotten far away from what our federal government was intended to be. Who's fault is it? American voters. Who's job is it to try and make things better? American voters - and a large number of them are failing badly. They have time to play games, watch tv, surf porn and read CR, but can't take any time to pay attention to current events or contact their reps and congressmen. I think more Americans need to do a better job at voicing their beliefs and thoughts to those that are supposed to be working for us, because we both know fewer and fewer "Americans" are giving a shit these days. Or, maybe what it means to be an American is drastically changing for the worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Keep in mind that there are a large number of people that have a different opinion that like where things are going. To them they did vote in the right people. One of the biggest issues we have is differences of opinion. For everything thread made about the bad gun bans someone else is making a thread saying its about time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2011SVT Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 1) The Constitution protects your right to bear arms. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say you are independently allowed to determine appropriate use of lethal force when it comes to defending your rights. If someone doesn't allow you to freely practice your religion, do you have the right to kill them? No. Opinions differ. So does the recognition of your legal authority to defend your rights with force. http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar41/ch3.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Keep in mind that there are a large number of people that have a different opinion that like where things are going. To them they did vote in the right people. Oh, indeed. I am all too aware of them and wish they would "progress" themselves into their own country. I believe strongly they do not have the best interest of the nation as a whole in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharris89 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 They have their OWN interests in mind. When you have less than half the nation supporting the entire nation it's pretty obvious where some of the problems lie. IMO almost all of the politicians are shit. They bitch across the aisles like spoiled little 5 year olds and can only agree to give themselves raises. I don't see anyone ever going door to door trying to take everyone's guns. No LEO in their right mind would do that. The media will just continue to try to make every law abiding American who owns guns look like an evil 2 headed monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeesammy Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 The guy that runs that site also hates Jews, believes that 9/11 was an inside job and believes in weird secret societies. I wouldn't take much from that site literal, the dude is a nut. Are you fucking serious? His WIFE is JEWISH. Ron Paul, one of the if not the biggest supporter of liberty and freedom SUPPORTS this site. So are you referring to him as an anti-Semite as well, just for agreeing with Jones' beliefs? He may come off as a nut to some, but if you would take more than 30 seconds of reading a mainstream news article on him, you would likely realize that most of his thoughts of the "secret society's" actually make sense, and aren't something formed from fact-less thoughts and ramblings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 They have their OWN interests in mind. When you have less than half the nation supporting the entire nation it's pretty obvious where some of the problems lie. IMO almost all of the politicians are shit. They bitch across the aisles like spoiled little 5 year olds and can only agree to give themselves raises. I don't see anyone ever going door to door trying to take everyone's guns. No LEO in their right mind would do that. The media will just continue to try to make every law abiding American who owns guns look like an evil 2 headed monster. I completely agree. The selfish people are the ones bringing us all down. If they cared about the well being of the country they would do more to support themselves. If the able tried harder we would all benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Borgen Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Oh, indeed. I am all too aware of them and wish they would "progress" themselves into their own country. I believe strongly they do not have the best interest of the nation as a whole in mind. and they also the same about you and me and many others no matter where you go, there you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1647545496 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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