Snowflake Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Majority on the police force though. Maybe they should try and recruit officers from other parts of the country. I'm sure police officers need to be educated and not be convicted felons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 Fuck rationalizing with thugs and crooks....the time is for action, we've done enough talking in this nation. Take this how you will. http://i.imgur.com/crClrO9.gif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattKatz Posted August 16, 2014 Report Share Posted August 16, 2014 An impulsive call for violence? That's a very thug-like attitude if you ask me. It's all in how you interpret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 You're absolutely right. My uncle's brother in law was shot to death by an officer in Louisiana earlier this year. He was having a manic episode during withdrawal from alcoholism and police were called to try to calm him down. He was holding a kitchen knife (like a butter knife, not a chef's knife) and refused orders to drop it. Instead of trying to taser him, or baton him, or gas him, the officer elected to shoot him with a shotgun despite all his neighbors and his wife watching and screaming to the officer "DON'T SHOOT". My girlfriend's first roommate was killed by officers in his house in March. While he claimed to family members to have a gun, he was not known to be in possession of one and no firearm was found on his body. He was shot 16 or so times by 4 officers. No taser was used. There has been mass censorship in the local media about it. Both instances were white-on-white. Both instances the person was using a deadly weapon. Officers are trained to match the level of force being used against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 They're also trained to react with the least amount of force necessary. Just playing devil's advocate here since I wasn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Fuck rationalizing with thugs and crooks....the time is for action, we've done enough talking in this nation. Take this how you will. http://www.newcelica.org/photopost/data/500/Senor-Chang.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Both instances the person was using a deadly weapon. Officers are trained to match the level of force being used against them. They're also trained to react with the least amount of force necessary. Just playing devil's advocate here since I wasn't there. They are trained as to the maximum allowable force given a set of circumstances, but yes, they are primarily trained to de-escalate and avoid extreme circumstances as much as possible. Has anyone thought to ask this; how well-trained is an officer that allegedly allows a suspect so close to him that he loses control of his sidearm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Has anyone thought to ask this; how well-trained is an officer that allegedly allows a suspect so close to him that he loses control of his sidearm? You'd be surprised the amount of space you'd need to react properly. The "reactionary gap" they train you on in the police academy is 21 feet. Obviously thats not possible as every encounter is different. Different circumstances require you to be closer or farther away from the person you're interacting with. Impossible to say though without seeing video of this actual encounter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I had no idea Columbusracing.com had so many law enforcement experts, attorneys, civil rights gurus, and long distance crime scene reconstruction specialists. How about this, we wait until there are some actual facts produced before this is all figured out? I mean, its almost like we have a grainy cell phone video of some dumbass getting hit by a sprint car on a dark track.... Oh and for the record based on the facts I've seen something really does not seem right. There are some parts of this story missing on both parts, but I really would like to know why a cop felt the need to shoot an unarmed person in the middle of the street. And for those who just love to play "devils advocate"; what if you totally take race out of this? What if this is a black cop shooting an unarmed white kid in the middle of the street that just got done committing a robbery? Keep buying what the media is selling, they need those ratings and the political officials need your blind vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 I had no idea Columbusracing.com had so many law enforcement experts, attorneys, civil rights gurus, and long distance crime scene reconstruction specialists. How about this, we wait until there are some actual facts produced before this is all figured out? I mean, its almost like we have a grainy cell phone video of some dumbass getting hit by a sprint car on a dark track.... Oh and for the record based on the facts I've seen something really does not seem right. There are some parts of this story missing on both parts, but I really would like to know why a cop felt the need to shoot an unarmed person in the middle of the street. And for those who just love to play "devils advocate"; what if you totally take race out of this? What if this is a black cop shooting an unarmed white kid in the middle of the street that just got done committing a robbery? Keep buying what the media is selling, they need those ratings and the political officials need your blind vote Sir yes sir. Sorry for providing my professional opinion on something that's brought national attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Some more information. http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698-eyewitness-recalls-important-detail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin Miata Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 It's all in how you interpret it. Or you could use additional words to form a coherent explanation, which would keep people from interpreting your post in a way other than it was intended to be. But that's just my interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/3M9fQ.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Sir yes sir. Sorry for providing my professional opinion on something that's brought national attention. Not throwing stones at people who ACTUALLY are in law enforcement.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) disregard Edited August 17, 2014 by RedRocket Link already posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeesammy Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 And for those who just love to play "devils advocate"; what if you totally take race out of this? What if this is a black cop shooting an unarmed white kid in the middle of the street that just got done committing a robbery? Then we would be picking out someone new wheels or congratulating someone on a new car purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Not throwing stones at people who ACTUALLY are in law enforcement.... Misunderstanding on my end. Carry on. :bangbang: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I had no idea Columbusracing.com had so many law enforcement experts, attorneys, civil rights gurus, and long distance crime scene reconstruction specialists. How about this, we wait until there are some actual facts produced before this is all figured out? I mean, its almost like we have a grainy cell phone video of some dumbass getting hit by a sprint car on a dark track.... Oh and for the record based on the facts I've seen something really does not seem right. There are some parts of this story missing on both parts, but I really would like to know why a cop felt the need to shoot an unarmed person in the middle of the street. And for those who just love to play "devils advocate"; what if you totally take race out of this? What if this is a black cop shooting an unarmed white kid in the middle of the street that just got done committing a robbery? Keep buying what the media is selling, they need those ratings and the political officials need your blind vote For the record, race is irrelevant to me. I would still be concerned and not jump to conclusions. However, I believe this holds me in the, dare I say it, "minority". Duh, duh, duhhhhhhhh. Or is that - bum bum bummmmm. Hell, I don't know. Screw it, just throw in a rimshot there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 For the record, race is irrelevant to me. I would still be concerned and not jump to conclusions. However, I believe this holds me in the, dare I say it, "minority". Duh, duh, duhhhhhhhh. Or is that - bum bum bummmmm. Hell, I don't know. Screw it, just throw in a rimshot there. Well the autopsy results are in, he was not shot in the back as claimed by the person with him, along with the other wittnesses. Soooo that kind of starts to toss some doubt into a lot of things here. Like I said, there are a lot of things that just don't add up at all. I have not heard if there is a dash cam video, that would really tell the tale. I'm very troubled by all of this riot action going on, what does that help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Well the autopsy results are in, he was not shot in the back as claimed by the person with him, along with the other wittnesses. Soooo that kind of starts to toss some doubt into a lot of things here. Like I said, there are a lot of things that just don't add up at all. I have not heard if there is a dash cam video, that would really tell the tale. I'm very troubled by all of this riot action going on, what does that help? The rioting helps those fucking idiots get free liquor and dem fo's to use as coffee tables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHemiDude Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Well the autopsy results are in, he was not shot in the back as claimed by the person with him, along with the other wittnesses. Witnesses frequently lie, especially if they have an agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Well the autopsy results are in, he was not shot in the back as claimed by the person with him, along with the other wittnesses. Soooo that kind of starts to toss some doubt into a lot of things here. Like I said, there are a lot of things that just don't add up at all. I have not heard if there is a dash cam video, that would really tell the tale. I'm very troubled by all of this riot action going on, what does that help? I'd read there was one wound in his arm that could have been shot from behind, or conceivably from the front if his hands were over his head. I still don't believe anything besides I don't think either the officer or the victim will get the justice they deserve. I don't know what either deserves, but they won't get it. Witnesses frequently lie, especially if they have an agenda. Hence my apprehension for any and all witness statements from either side of the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 We won't know the whole truth on this matter, one way or another. Here's my issue: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/76953000/jpg/_76953879_453575526.jpg Got more shit than I had in Iraq back in 03'. Not to mention, while on patrol, I didn't have my M16A4 pointed at anyone neither. I understand what they do, I get the necessity for SOME of the equipment. But their tactics and techniques are amateur at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 We won't know the whole truth on this matter, one way or another. Here's my issue: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/76953000/jpg/_76953879_453575526.jpg Got more shit than I had in Iraq back in 03'. Not to mention, while on patrol, I didn't have my M16A4 pointed at anyone neither. I understand what they do, I get the necessity for SOME of the equipment. But their tactics and techniques are amateur at best. And there's a major issue news stories and politicians aren't touching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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