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Special delivery of fuck you to Isis from France.

https://www.rt.com/news/322211-france-airstrike-isis-raqqa/

 

About time they do something. They need to strengthen from within their border. They can't let the terrorist terrorize their own cities and suburbs and then some thing like 11/13 and react. Too late now.

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IMO, this is to them what 9/11 was to us.

 

Immediately closed the boarders and stopped flight. I like it.

Gathers some intel, and delivers a message. I like it.

Would like to see armed citizens, ASAP.

 

 

Our boarders are still open as we tell to world about the threat to our citizens and targeted military and their families. Just an FYI, if you've been under a rock.

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I agree with much of what Brandon has to say. And also, I don't profess to have any super great answers, but this isn't the kind of situation where a bad idea is better than no idea at all. I think that, generally speaking, that change HAS to come from within. No amount of bombs or bullets or napalm is going to "fix" the situation, because the situation is not localized.

 

Interesting that we would hear a "hydra" reference in here, because that is very much IS happening. We have, essentially, been taking the fight to the terrorists for almost 15 years...and though we have won several victories, still, these things continue to happen. Al Quaeda is pretty much dead, but now we have ISIS (or any of the several other "IS" groups). When we figure them out and make them dead, why would there be any reason another group won't fill that void? No, the answer has to come from within. Fear of "us" is not going to keep this at bay. Until the impoverished, unrepresented, uneducated, and disenfranchised people of the world feel that they are on more equal footing with the rest of us, there will be a breeding ground for this kind of crazy.

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But, why does every government know exactly who and where to bomb after each terrorist attack?

 

Can we start blowing these worthless humans into blood and bones BEFORE they kill innocents?

 

We agree on that. Always seemed a bit confusing to me as well.

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We agree on that. Always seemed a bit confusing to me as well.

 

Equally confusing, why are the French bombing this stuff all of the sudden? Have we not been "bombing" ISIS for a while now? Did the French use a cheat code to unlock the location of these targets?

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Equally confusing, why are the French bombing this stuff all of the sudden? Have we not been "bombing" ISIS for a while now? Did the French use a cheat code to unlock the location of these targets?

 

Every intelligence agencies always have probable targets. Most of the time they wait until "prime" to strike. In this case the French probably said fuck it we need to blow some shit up.

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I don't like to generalize, but this is hard to argue with!?

 

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim

The Beltway Snipers were Muslims

The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim

The underwear Bomber was a Muslim

The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims

The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims

The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims

The London Subway Bombers were Muslims

The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims

The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims

The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims

The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims

The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims

The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims

The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims

The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims

The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims

The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims

The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims

The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims

The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims

The first World Trade Centre Bombers were Muslims

The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims

The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims

The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

 

Think of it:

 

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem

Hindus living with Christians = No Problem

Hindus living with Jews = No Problem

Christians living with Shintos = No Problem

Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem

Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem

Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem

Jews living with Atheists = No Problem

Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem

Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem

Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem

Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem

Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem

Christians living with Jews = No Problem

Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem

Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem

Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem

Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem

Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

 

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem

Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem

Muslims living with Christians = Problem

Muslims living with Jews = Problem

Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem

Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem

Muslims living with Shintos = Problem

Muslims living with Atheists = Problem

MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

 

**********SO THIS LEADS TO *****************

 

They're not happy in Gaza

They're not happy in Egypt

They're not happy in Libya

They're not happy in Morocco

They're not happy in Iran

They're not happy in Iraq

They're not happy in Yemen

They're not happy in Afghanistan

They're not happy in Pakistan

They're not happy in Syria

They're not happy in Lebanon

They're not happy in Nigeria

They're not happy in Kenya

They're not happy in Sudan

 

******** So, where are they happy? **********

 

They're happy in Australia

They're happy in England

They're happy in Belgium

They're happy in France

They're happy in Italy

They're happy in Germany

They're happy in Sweden

They're happy in the USA & Canada

They're happy in Norway & India

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame?

Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves,

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in,

to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will get hammered!

 

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

ISIS : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

AND A LOT MORE!

 

And We just can’t figure out who's causing the problem.

We Can't Seem to Pinpoint The Problem !

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I don't like to generalize, but this is hard to argue with!?

 

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim

The Beltway Snipers were Muslims

The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim

The underwear Bomber was a Muslim

The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims

The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims

The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims

The London Subway Bombers were Muslims

The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims

The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims

The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims

The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims

The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims

The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims

The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims

The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims

The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims

The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims

The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims

The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims

The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims

The first World Trade Centre Bombers were Muslims

The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims

The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims

The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

 

Think of it:

 

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem

Hindus living with Christians = No Problem

Hindus living with Jews = No Problem

Christians living with Shintos = No Problem

Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem

Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem

Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem

Jews living with Atheists = No Problem

Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem

Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem

Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem

Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem

Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem

Christians living with Jews = No Problem

Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem

Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem

Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem

Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem

Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

 

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem

Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem

Muslims living with Christians = Problem

Muslims living with Jews = Problem

Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem

Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem

Muslims living with Shintos = Problem

Muslims living with Atheists = Problem

MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

 

**********SO THIS LEADS TO *****************

 

They're not happy in Gaza

They're not happy in Egypt

They're not happy in Libya

They're not happy in Morocco

They're not happy in Iran

They're not happy in Iraq

They're not happy in Yemen

They're not happy in Afghanistan

They're not happy in Pakistan

They're not happy in Syria

They're not happy in Lebanon

They're not happy in Nigeria

They're not happy in Kenya

They're not happy in Sudan

 

******** So, where are they happy? **********

 

They're happy in Australia

They're happy in England

They're happy in Belgium

They're happy in France

They're happy in Italy

They're happy in Germany

They're happy in Sweden

They're happy in the USA & Canada

They're happy in Norway & India

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame?

Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves,

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in,

to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will get hammered!

 

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

ISIS : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

AND A LOT MORE!

 

And We just can’t figure out who's causing the problem.

We Can't Seem to Pinpoint The Problem !

 

Fucking spot on, but that's not PC bro.

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I don't like to generalize, but this is hard to argue with!?

 

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim

The Beltway Snipers were Muslims

The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim

The underwear Bomber was a Muslim

The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims

The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims

The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims

The London Subway Bombers were Muslims

The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims

The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims

The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims

The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims

The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims

The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims

The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims

The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims

The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims

The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims

The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims

The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims

The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims

The first World Trade Centre Bombers were Muslims

The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims

The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims

The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

 

Think of it:

 

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem

Hindus living with Christians = No Problem

Hindus living with Jews = No Problem

Christians living with Shintos = No Problem

Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem

Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem

Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem

Jews living with Atheists = No Problem

Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem

Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem

Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem

Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem

Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem

Christians living with Jews = No Problem

Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem

Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem

Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem

Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem

Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

 

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem

Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem

Muslims living with Christians = Problem

Muslims living with Jews = Problem

Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem

Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem

Muslims living with Shintos = Problem

Muslims living with Atheists = Problem

MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

 

**********SO THIS LEADS TO *****************

 

They're not happy in Gaza

They're not happy in Egypt

They're not happy in Libya

They're not happy in Morocco

They're not happy in Iran

They're not happy in Iraq

They're not happy in Yemen

They're not happy in Afghanistan

They're not happy in Pakistan

They're not happy in Syria

They're not happy in Lebanon

They're not happy in Nigeria

They're not happy in Kenya

They're not happy in Sudan

 

******** So, where are they happy? **********

 

They're happy in Australia

They're happy in England

They're happy in Belgium

They're happy in France

They're happy in Italy

They're happy in Germany

They're happy in Sweden

They're happy in the USA & Canada

They're happy in Norway & India

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame?

Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves,

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in,

to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will get hammered!

 

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

ISIS : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

AND A LOT MORE!

 

And We just can’t figure out who's causing the problem.

We Can't Seem to Pinpoint The Problem !

 

Not completely True

 

2008 Tibetan Unrest, Buddhist monks in Tibetan rioted. Violence was directed against the Hui (Muslims) and Han (Atheists).

 

2013 Myanmar anti-Muslim Riots. Buddhist monks went and killed over 40 Muslims and injured over 60.

 

There are extremists everywhere, just a lot more extremists in the Muslim population. Doesn't mean Muslims in all is bad, they just need to get rid of the extremists. You want someone to blame, blame religious extremism. It is in every religion, if you really look at history, Christians has been pretty violent as well. The crusades, the dark ages, colonizing the Americas, and many many many more acts of violence. People say the Quran promotes violence, but it is all taken out of context. If the same arguments were made, we can apply that to the bible as well. The problem are these extremist/fundamentalists have distorted Islam for political purposes, to gain power. Basically what they do is they take verses out of context and then use that to justify these egregious actions. It is really easy for these extremists to recruit out of really religious countries in the Islamic world. How do we stop it? I don't know. I can tell you the easiest way to stop it... but isn't very ethical or PC. lol

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I want to thank well-meaning non-Muslims who, in the wake of these attacks, have emphasised that they have been carried out by a small, twisted minority. A terrorist's goal is to sow hatred and discord, and by not giving in, you are defeating their plans.

 

But I want to say that as a Muslim, I wish that we weren't so quick to emphasise that this has nothing to do with us. While I personally have never killed anyone and none of my friends and family have ever resorted to violence, radicalism has everything to do with Islam. And the failure to address that out of a well-intentioned commitment to tolerance is making the problem worse.

 

ISIS is a Muslim organisation, and it is an Islamic problem. Let me say it again to be perfectly clear. ISIS is a Muslim organisation, and they are a cancer at the heart of Islam. And the problem will not go away until Muslims confront that.

 

ISIS attackers scream 'Allah hu'akbar' during their attacks.

ISIS recruits cite Qur'anic verses as justification for the rape and enslavement of women.

ISIS soldiers kill archaeologists, gay men and women, and people who refuse to convert to Islam because they are blasphemers.

 

There are no Christians in ISIS. There are no Buddhists, Jews, Pagans, Taoists, Houngans, Catholics, Wiccans, Hindus or even Scientologists in ISIS. ISIS is a Muslim organisation and they kill in the name of Islam.

 

So don't say that ISIS aren't 'true Muslims' or that they are 'not really Muslims'. Like any large organisation, ISIS exists in a spectrum. You have the aimless, restless teenager who never amounted to anything in his life and traveled to Syria because he can't find a job and doesn't know if the Qur'an is to be read from left to right or right to left. But you also have pious professionals, businessmen, and academics who read their Qur'an cover to cover, pray every day, were seduced into radicalism, and truly believe that the Islamic State's goal of conquest is a noble one. The so-called 'Caliph' Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi has a doctorate in Islamic studies.

 

So if you feel that Muslims are being oppressed or killed in Muslim countries, I expect you to also be just as outraged by ISIS. Because they have killed more Muslims in Iraq, Syria and Jordan than the entire US army. They have done more damage to the name and reputation of Islam than any Western nation. ISIS is Islam's biggest enemy, not the US, not Israel or France or Germany or the Russians.

 

We have to own the problem. We have to admit that this is a religious problem, and we need to renew our commitment to a secular country which treats all religions equally. I have believed in the importance of secularism all my life, and with every day that passes that belief grows stronger. Religion is no way to govern a nation. Not any religion, and not any nation.

 

ISIS is not America's problem, nor the British, nor the French. ISIS is not Syria or Iraq's problem. ISIS is a problem for Muslims. And if you can't admit that, you're not really a good Muslim either.

 

Normally I don't share Facebook posts, but this is thoughtfully written, and pertinent.

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I agree with much of what Brandon has to say. And also, I don't profess to have any super great answers, but this isn't the kind of situation where a bad idea is better than no idea at all. I think that, generally speaking, that change HAS to come from within. No amount of bombs or bullets or napalm is going to "fix" the situation, because the situation is not localized.

 

Interesting that we would hear a "hydra" reference in here, because that is very much IS happening. We have, essentially, been taking the fight to the terrorists for almost 15 years...and though we have won several victories, still, these things continue to happen. Al Quaeda is pretty much dead, but now we have ISIS (or any of the several other "IS" groups). When we figure them out and make them dead, why would there be any reason another group won't fill that void? No, the answer has to come from within. Fear of "us" is not going to keep this at bay. Until the impoverished, unrepresented, uneducated, and disenfranchised people of the world feel that they are on more equal footing with the rest of us, there will be a breeding ground for this kind of crazy.

 

That is a good point to hyrda in a different manner in which I was referring. I will say as much as it seems people hate the idea of Iraq and loved Obama pulling troops, you must also wonder if our post-war support plans breed this more so then our direct actions. I think the post-war efforts (or lack there of) caused a lot of this ill, and could have been lessened potentially.

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Not completely True

 

2008 Tibetan Unrest, Buddhist monks in Tibetan rioted. Violence was directed against the Hui (Muslims) and Han (Atheists).

 

2013 Myanmar anti-Muslim Riots. Buddhist monks went and killed over 40 Muslims and injured over 60.

 

There are extremists everywhere, just a lot more extremists in the Muslim population. Doesn't mean Muslims in all is bad, they just need to get rid of the extremists. You want someone to blame, blame religious extremism. It is in every religion, if you really look at history, Christians has been pretty violent as well. The crusades, the dark ages, colonizing the Americas, and many many many more acts of violence. People say the Quran promotes violence, but it is all taken out of context. If the same arguments were made, we can apply that to the bible as well. The problem are these extremist/fundamentalists have distorted Islam for political purposes, to gain power. Basically what they do is they take verses out of context and then use that to justify these egregious actions. It is really easy for these extremists to recruit out of really religious countries in the Islamic world. How do we stop it? I don't know. I can tell you the easiest way to stop it... but isn't very ethical or PC. lol

 

^^Nice^^ you can quote 2 instances where I am not 100% spot on. And bringing up things that were 100's of years ago as an example of justification for ISIS?.

 

The Quran does promote violence, it is clear we either need to convert or die, seems pretty violent for a peace loving religion?

 

I can tell you how to stop it, it won't be PC, ethical.....well, ISIS doesn't care if they kill innocent civilians, women or children, we need to adopt their principals if we plan to go to battle and win, that will be the only way.

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I can tell you how to stop it, it won't be PC, ethical.....well, ISIS doesn't care if they kill innocent civilians, women or children, we need to adopt their principals if we plan to go to battle and win, that will be the only way.

 

Jesus did you honestly just say that? I get its the interwebz but come on if you honestly believe any bit of that then the concept of what fuels these groups is lost on you. Also the concept of humanity.

This isn't swordfish, you can't bomb 10 churches to 'solve' the problem.

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Jesus did you honestly just say that? I get its the interwebz but come on if you honestly believe any bit of that then the concept of what fuels these groups is lost on you. Also the concept of humanity.

This isn't swordfish, you can't bomb 10 churches to 'solve' the problem.

 

I never said to bomb churches. These terrorists are hiding behind people that sympathize with them, they are hiding these people due to their "religion", I know what fuels these groups just fine.

 

But you can't fight fire with gasoline, and that's what we did in the middle east, we stoked the fire and left, now look what we created. We (the U.S.) has created a lot of these problems by funding organizations to take care of one problem, only to create 3 more, funded dictators, supported the Muslim Brotherhood etc..

 

My opinion, you will never change anything on that side of the world, they have been killing each other for thousands of years, and will continue till the end, all we can do is try to lessen the impact that they create in this country.

 

I hope that is more PC to your liking. :confused:

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well, ISIS doesn't care if they kill innocent civilians, women or children, we need to adopt their principals if we plan to go to battle and win, that will be the only way.

 

Apparently Russia and France don't care either, they are doing this right now...... pass the humanity please..:gabe:

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