Zach Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Seems like my experience talking to cruiser guys has been very different from yours. Nascar, maybe . . .meh, what do I know?I just go to Mid-O for the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj1 Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Racing is Racing.... So what if it is sponsored by Harley.... I never will understand the bashin..... IMO it just as bad as racsism... I mean come on peopl..... It'll about riding... who cares what you ride..... isnt that why we are all here? we love to ride!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorvictor Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Going for the chrome, hot girls, or just the beer thats in the hot girls... we all love some sort of racing! get over yourself and take the time at the track that u dont want to watch a hardley race and concentrate on the beer in the hot girls some more. I seriously doubt that most nascar fans as hillbilly as they are look at busch racing as a waste of time and energy or how about the school bus races! To each his or her own and get over yourself. find something else to do and stop bitching cause someone is using your track for something other than racing your type of vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildit Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 So?People that like harleys like spending money on motorcycle events. what's bad about that?Supporting motorcycleists is one thing, I don't support the HD industry though. They have perpetuated more "bad" stereotypes and incorrect information than the whole of the MC industry. It is hard for me to deal with any group that encourages drinking and riding, lack of proper gear or unsafe riding techniques.I know there are lots of HD owners and riders who are great riders, are ATGATT and don't perpetuate the HD stigma. To them I appologize for the stereotype the ownership of a HD gives them.As to the AMA I figured out a long time ago that they have to appeal to the masses. It doesn't mean they are ignoring the concerns of other riders. So if the HD crowd is interested in racing I say more power to them. Maybe it will change some HD views on use of proper gear or the dangers of drinking and riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nochknstrps Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I seriously doubt that most nascar fans as hillbilly as they are look at busch racing as a waste of time and energy You know what thats the most valid point you've made in this entire thread. Nascar fans don't see the busch series as a waste of time and engergy cause its still a car making left hand turns for the race distance. So they are content to call that racing, same as their beloved Nascar.The art behind any sportbike road racing event are the high speeds, cornering dragging a knee and existing the corner faster than they entered. Thats what we all wish to accomplish and thats why we enjoy watching sportbike road racing. There is no art form behind going around in a circle for hours (Nascar racing), and thats exactly what a Harley XR1200 class will be lacking and won't bring to the table of an AMA road race. Bogging down the back straight...still bogging down the back straight...heavy on the brakes...entering turn... you get my point.Take the MOTO GT class they conjured up this season, Fuckin Lame, may have not been so bad if they weren't out there for two hours. Who was watching them for more than 10 mins anyways? We didn't pay for that and alot of people simply decided not to pay for that this year at Mid-O and other ama events. In the past there was more track time from bikes we actually wanted to watch even if they were just practicing. With a harley class added there will be even less track time for the bikes we pay to see and will result in a even bigger drop in attendance. Keep the harleys on the dirt tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 How many japanese motorcycles were at this race?[indianapolis Speedway, 1909]Oh wait, the first japanese motorcycles weren't even produced for the next 30 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 and thats exactly what a Harley XR1200 class will be lacking and won't bring to the table of an AMA road race. Bogging down the back straight...still bogging down the back straight...heavy on the brakes...entering turn... you get my point. So you didn't watch my vid then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4junkie Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Wow that's an old pic. You're right, let's all shun advancement and embrace the Harley way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nochknstrps Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Looks like a small tight european track which could make for a some excitement for about 10 mins. Makes things seem faster than what they really are so yeah I could see some people enjoying this... I'm not one of them not what I'm looking for.And whats with the Indy pic. If you want to base harley's participation on heritage then lets just say thier roots lie in oval tracks not road courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Wow that's an old pic. You're right, let's all shun advancement and embrace the Harley way!No need for the hate is all I'm sayin. Like someone said, go look at the geico girls and grab some brewskies while the hogs are out playin.I'll be on the lawn watchin some really talented riders force those silly bikes all over the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4junkie Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 No need for the hate is all I'm sayin. Like someone said, go look at the geico girls and grab some brewskies while the hogs are out playin.I'll be on the lawn watchin some really talented riders force those silly bikes all over the track. Good point, brews, girls, and comedy. My bigotry must be a defense mechanism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Good point, brews, girls, and comedy. My bigotry must be a defense mechanism.admitting it is your first step to recovery... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 My bigotry must be a defense mechanism.Ok, now explain your faggotry? :p:D:DJ/k mang. U know I <3 u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorvictor Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Ok, now explain your faggotry? :p:D:DJ/k mang. U know I <3 uFaggotry! LOL Thats some good shit right there. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nochknstrps Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 It would be better for all of us if you just sat at home and watched your Harley xr1200 races on tv or youtube with porn in another tab or window on your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V4junkie Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) Ok, now explain your faggotry? :p:D:DJ/k mang. U know I <3 uNOT a word! *sniff* It's not my fault I can color coordinate and I come off as sensitive. I think it's the glasses. Oh, and maybe I listen to Coldplay. Edited September 22, 2009 by V4junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorvictor Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 You know what thats the most valid point you've made in this entire thread. Nascar fans don't see the busch series as a waste of time and engergy cause its still a car making left hand turns for the race distance. So they are content to call that racing, same as their beloved Nascar.The art behind any sportbike road racing event are the high speeds, cornering dragging a knee and existing the corner faster than they entered. Thats what we all wish to accomplish and thats why we enjoy watching sportbike road racing. There is no art form behind going around in a circle for hours (Nascar racing), and thats exactly what a Harley XR1200 class will be lacking and won't bring to the table of an AMA road race. Bogging down the back straight...still bogging down the back straight...heavy on the brakes...entering turn... you get my point.Take the MOTO GT class they conjured up this season, Fuckin Lame, may have not been so bad if they weren't out there for two hours. Who was watching them for more than 10 mins anyways? We didn't pay for that and alot of people simply decided not to pay for that this year at Mid-O and other ama events. In the past there was more track time from bikes we actually wanted to watch even if they were just practicing. With a harley class added there will be even less track time for the bikes we pay to see and will result in a even bigger drop in attendance. Keep the harleys on the dirt tracks.Nascar is just as much racing as drag racing, but you wouldnt think that because there are no corners on the track? i prefer road racing but i wouldnt deprive someone of support because i dont like motorcycles that dont turn worth a damn! You just have your racing head up your ass and dont care what it is because its not racing unless its your kind of racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 It would be better for all of us if you just sat at home and watched your Harley xr1200 races on tv or youtube with porn in another tab or window on your computer.What a stunning retort! I now bow to you in your chicken-strip-free glory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorvictor Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 It would be better for all of us if you just sat at home and watched your Harley xr1200 races on tv or youtube with porn in another tab or window on your computer.The event has to take place somewhere to be televised or on u tube and what better place then a race track where there are other road racers present to make a larger crowd for more money to the promoters who pay the winners payout for your kind of racing! Its a group effort whether you like it or not its still racing that someone is interested in. Get over yourself and let others play along! it will make it better for all in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nochknstrps Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Nascar is just as much racing as drag racing, but you wouldnt think that because there are no corners on the track? i prefer road racing but i wouldnt deprive someone of support because i dont like motorcycles that dont turn worth a damn! You just have your racing head up your ass and dont care what it is because its not racing unless its your kind of racing?The event has to take place somewhere to be televised or on u tube and what better place then a race track where there are other road racers present to make a larger crowd for more money to the promoters who pay the winners payout for your kind of racing! Its a group effort whether you like it or not its still racing that someone is interested in. Get over yourself and let others play along! it will make it better for all in the end.Wow you're an angry little boy... Calm down son, we don't all have to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorvictor Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 No but im trying to make you agree to disagree and your one stubborn bunch of a-holes sometimes. If someone else calls it racing and they enjoy it on two or four wheels let them waste time if they want. racing has always been about making something better tomorrow by finding out whos got the edge today and maybe it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nochknstrps Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 No but im trying to make you agree to disagree and your one stubborn bunch of a-holes sometimes. If someone else calls it racing and they enjoy it on two or four wheels let them waste time if they want. racing has always been about making something better tomorrow by finding out whos got the edge today and maybe it will.yeah well not on my dime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 yeah well not on my dime! how is an additional race class 'on your dime'?Were you at mid-o this year? One or two more years with that shitty turnout and you won't have to worry about watching racing that you don't agree with. Or any racing for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorvictor Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 how is an additional race class 'on your dime'?Were you at mid-o this year? One or two more years with that shitty turnout and you won't have to worry about watching racing that you don't agree with. Or any racing for that matter.+1. and if the harley guys bring some spectators and some money you wont bitch then will you. Some times u have to give to get! mama always said that to me along with the box of chocolate speech! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nochknstrps Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I won't be spending any money to go see any races is what I mean. And Yes I actaully made it to Daytona and Mid-O. After Daytona I said that I wouldn't pay for any more tickets this year, I just happen to win a few for mid-o.So its not out landish to say that tickets sales were already low this year, adding the xr1200 series to the card will not improve ticket sales. The new heads of AMA should focus on restoring motorcycle road racing to its once had glory. After that then they can venture into uncharted waters with new classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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