r1crusher Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 True, there is no state law against open carry. But I dare you to try it in any large municipality and I will bet you $1000 that you'll be quickly carted off to the jail for any number of charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Great...now Floundy won't have to sneak in to malest the farm animals. I've carried while riding and it's sucks unless you have a shoulder rig. But then you can never take off your jacket. The law should be changed to open carry like TX/AZ and everything would so much easier.New rules went into effect in March of 2007. For example you can carry in your car on your hip. They did away with the plain sight stipulation. The only drawback to open carry is the fact that people would probably freak out and call the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Great...now Floundy won't have to sneak in to malest the farm animals. I've carried while riding and it's sucks unless you have a shoulder rig. But then you can never take off your jacket. The law should be changed to open carry like TX/AZ and everything would so much easier.I don't see the need to carry a gun on a bike. 1) They're fast, so you can get away.2) You crash and you're fine...but wait the impact discharged the gun lodging a bullet into your lungs.3) See #2 incase of crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyec001 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 True, there is no state law against open carry. But I dare you to try it in any large municipality and I will bet you $1000 that you'll be quickly carted off to the jail for any number of charges.Technically they can't take you to jail for that. Now you will probably be harassed and if they want to find a reason to take you they probably will. Public panic is a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 True, there is no state law against open carry. But I dare you to try it in any large municipality and I will bet you $1000 that you'll be quickly carted off to the jail for any number of charges.There was a story a while back about this same sort of issue.http://www.ohioccw.org/content/view/3672/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I don't see the need to carry a gun on a bike. 1) They're fast, so you can get away.2) You crash and you're fine...but wait the impact discharged the gun lodging a bullet into your lungs.3) See #2 incase of crash. No need to carry on a bike huh.. well you have to stop sometime..A few weeks back I watched a kid pull a gun down at taco bell. He then grabbed a car stereo box out of his back seat and walked to the 711 lot to another car.. I dont want to know what the hell they were doing.. but they could have just as easily pointed it at me and said give me your money and or bike. Not to mention that what if whatever they were doing went bad and shots started getting fired, I dont want to have just a slurpie in my hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 True Flounder, but I'd be in my car though so I wouldn't have to worry about that. I don't ride my bike to food joints in all honesty man. So if I was carrying it'd be in my car. Plus I never see that shit around where I live anyways. I tend to stay away from trouble or big crowds. Yes I do know at times trouble finds us.I'm afraid to get my carry permit because I'll probably get in trouble with it and that's something I'm not willing to risk. I know myself and I don't need a carry permit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomez Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 wasn't me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 No need to carry on a bike huh.. well you have to stop sometime..A few weeks back I watched a kid pull a gun down at taco bell. He then grabbed a car stereo box out of his back seat and walked to the 711 lot to another car.. I dont want to know what the hell they were doing.. but they could have just as easily pointed it at me and said give me your money and or bike. Not to mention that what if whatever they were doing went bad and shots started getting fired, I dont want to have just a slurpie in my hand...I wouldnt want to kill anyone over my bike or the $20 in my wallet...they can have it.yeah, i wussed out on the CCW course...i went to cedar point. plus, i carry already...my gat has no serial numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadmonk Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I don't see the need to carry a gun on a bike. 1) They're fast, so you can get away.2) You crash and you're fine...but wait the impact discharged the gun lodging a bullet into your lungs.3) See #2 incase of crash. thats because you havent seen the shit happen that i have with a group a assholes in and suv or a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadmonk Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 No need to carry on a bike huh.. well you have to stop sometime..A few weeks back I watched a kid pull a gun down at taco bell. He then grabbed a car stereo box out of his back seat and walked to the 711 lot to another car.. I dont want to know what the hell they were doing.. but they could have just as easily pointed it at me and said give me your money and or bike. Not to mention that what if whatever they were doing went bad and shots started getting fired, I dont want to have just a slurpie in my hand...+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 thats because you havent seen the shit happen that i have with a group a assholes in and suv or a car.Oh I have MANY times. Theres some fucking loonies in some vehicles. I normally flip them the bird and forget about it. You just can't go shooting anyone that pisses you off or you'll just be serving life in prison. Trust me I would love to clean up some gene pools, but you can't. You will lose in court if you shot up a vehicle saying they were swerving at you. Downshift and be the bigger man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyen Soljax Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 +1 to flounder. taco bell can be a little unnerving at times. unfortunately it just happens to be where everyone goes. and right next to where i live... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Get enough posers which are normally punks anywhere and I'm sure there will always be trouble. I don't hang around where young or old punks go, so I wouldn't know what it's like. Although I did when I was a teenager to about 24, so I know how shit can start. I think I've even been a shit starter before back in the day...lol *oops* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoticRebel Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ok, so if you're actually carrying a gun and "shit breaks out", but then what? Are you going to return fire and head to prison with them? Are you going to throw an empty gun at them? What do you plan on doing with a gun when "shit breaks out?" Stand by your bike and pose all gangsta with it? I'm with Ninja on this one. I'd love to mow down a few of the assholes out there, but I'm not willing to lose my life and head to prison for it. When stuff starts getting rough, that's when you just jump on your bike and get the hell outta Dodge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ok, so if you're actually carrying a gun and "shit breaks out", but then what? Are you going to return fire and head to prison with them? Are you going to throw an empty gun at them? What do you plan on doing with a gun when "shit breaks out?" Stand by your bike and pose all gangsta with it? I'm with Ninja on this one. I'd love to mow down a few of the assholes out there, but I'm not willing to lose my life and head to prison for it. When stuff starts getting rough, that's when you just jump on your bike and get the hell outta Dodge.Thanks bro! If I could, I'd buy you a beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoticRebel Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Thanks bro! If I could, I'd buy you a beer. Ahh geez, I side with you and then you call me a bro? Booo! Should have given a shout out to your homegirl instead with, "Word sistah!" Ha ha, just teasing, but now you owe me two beers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ok, so if you're actually carrying a gun and "shit breaks out", but then what? Are you going to return fire and head to prison with them? Are you going to throw an empty gun at them? What do you plan on doing with a gun when "shit breaks out?" Stand by your bike and pose all gangsta with it? I'm with Ninja on this one. I'd love to mow down a few of the assholes out there, but I'm not willing to lose my life and head to prison for it. When stuff starts getting rough, that's when you just jump on your bike and get the hell outta Dodge.You evidently dont have any idea what Im talking about and Im guessing probably not much experience with firearms. but your opinion is your opinion. A CCW is only to protect in a situation where life is in danger and you must weigh all possibilities and outcomes prior to making your decision. I will not even discuss situations with you because its a waste of time and a debate that Im not willing to get into.. Do what you will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ok, so if you're actually carrying a gun and "shit breaks out", but then what? Are you going to return fire and head to prison with them? Are you going to throw an empty gun at them? What do you plan on doing with a gun when "shit breaks out?" Stand by your bike and pose all gangsta with it? I'm with Ninja on this one. I'd love to mow down a few of the assholes out there, but I'm not willing to lose my life and head to prison for it. When stuff starts getting rough, that's when you just jump on your bike and get the hell outta Dodge.It is perfectly legal according to Ohio law to use lethal force when one is in fear of serious bodily harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walther_gsp Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 oh, and screw Team Kimber. Team Springfield all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadmonk Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Oh I have MANY times. Theres some fucking loonies in some vehicles. I normally flip them the bird and forget about it. You just can't go shooting anyone that pisses you off or you'll just be serving life in prison. Trust me I would love to clean up some gene pools, but you can't. You will lose in court if you shot up a vehicle saying they were swerving at you. Downshift and be the bigger man. no no no i dont mean just shooting up a car just because knuckleheads swerve in front of you.....dude i have seen people hop out of cars 4 deep or more to start some shit. And it isnt always about flipping them off and forgetting about because if they react right after the flip off you better be ready especially if they cut you off to where you cant go anywhere. Thats what i am talking about i have seen happen to people on more that a few occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 It is perfectly legal according to Ohio law to use lethal force when one is in fear of serious bodily harm.You're right it is. But you have to prove it and chances are not good on your side. Renegade was mentioning crazy fuckers in vehicles while he's riding his bike. It doesn't matter if they're swerving to knock you off the road or not. You pull out and start shooting at them and you're fucked by the law. Don't believe that...then do it and prove me wrong. It's better to downshift and leave their asses.Now in a face to face situation where someone is trying to kill you with another gun...then you better hope there are witnesses. If you are alone and it's just you 2 and you kill him, then you WILL get sent up for Murder in the 1st. It's your word against the evidence that they have, and that is there is a dead man and you pulled the trigger. You're fucked whether you have a gun or not. Your life will be over either way.I like the glock and shotgun for home protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 no no no i dont mean just shooting up a car just because knuckleheads swerve in front of you.....dude i have seen people hop out of cars 4 deep or more to start some shit. And it isnt always about flipping them off and forgetting about because if they react right after the flip off you better be ready especially if they cut you off to where you cant go anywhere. Thats what i am talking about i have seen happen to people on more that a few occasions.Ok, that sounds better. They get out and start coming towards you, then yeah. Hell if you have full gear on, you probably can take them all. If they punch your helmet it's going to break their hands practically and the body shots they give you won't hurt much either with full leathers....lol:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadmonk Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 oh, and screw Team Kimber. Team Springfield all the way!i am a CZ man myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadmonk Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ok, that sounds better. They get out and start coming towards you, then yeah. Hell if you have full gear on, you probably can take them all. If they punch your helmet it's going to break their hands practically and the body shots they give you won't hurt much either with full leathers....lol:cool:full gear ....thats funny lol.....now you know and i know...lol...if they do get out the car you can bet more than likely one of them has a weapon. Most punks hang out in packs anyway because they scared to be alone due to the fact they probably did something to someone else in the not too distant past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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