Sorry for the late response but I'm working out of state and been away from a computer for a while. While it may be true "we" Harley riders may get defensive,if you read the thread with an open mind,you might see a trend and realize why. And just a reminder,I've owned many bikes over the years and in fact still own a Honda. The thread is about loud pipes and no one mentioned anything about brand until the "Harley" rider posted. First it was a "Ban" post from one and then a specific point made against shitbags on "Harleys". 5 pages of guys posting that their rides are loud but the first Harley poster gets everyone's ire up? Glad the guys I ride with who still ride bikes other than Harleys aren't so quick to judge. Or maybe it's because most of their bikes are louder than most Harleys.