i f-n hate harley davidson and the whole h-d image. they are waay overpriced, sound like shit, built like shit, and look like shit imo. like the saying last century technology, and todays pricing. they are not american bikes either..maybe assembled here..if im correct doesnt honda own a certain percentage of h-d? i hate how every harley riders wardrobe consits of blck and orange h-d t shirts and black pants.i dont wave to anyone, rather might give a h-d rider a nice salute..sorry for the rant