Cheech

I MIGHT be able to make Sunday. Lots to do around the house, I've been gone since Tuesday and just got back in. Thanks for the heads-up Street.

Under what grounds? Fraud? I'm genuinely curious.

You are changing the premise of your comparison. I'm not talking about normal people, I'm talking about Clinton's lie vs. Bush's lie.

Bingo.

I've been to the United States, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru.... Seriously, if you want the list, it's Canada, Mexico (multiple places), Czech Republic, China, and Australia. The fact that some countries have a constitutional right to healthcare and the well being of their citizenry is quite interesting to me, and I would love to have something like that adopted in the US. I've been asked by a few people overseas why we resist it, and really couldn't give them a good answer. There's more, but I don't have a ton of time to expound on that topic. I'm still living here because I choose to. Would I live overseas for 6 mo/year? You bet your ass I would. At the end of the day, however, this is still my home. I've heard that with every paycheck I'm getting 1000 bucks withheld for the Human Fund. Is google broken for you? Perhaps so, but if you'd stop watching Rocky IV on repeat all day you might understand that the USA is not the all-knowing, 800# juggernaut that it once was. Sure, our military (which I assume is the background you have) is ridiculously powerful, but that's come at the expense of education, infrastructure, healthcare, and a ton of other things that matter more on a day-to-day basis than the latest and greatest smart bomb. who the hell are you, the internet referee?

Tens of thousands of people didn't die over it.

Indeed. Tiger Woods has 4 racks of A's, 4 with clusters, 3 with bronze stars and 5 with silver stars.

Perjury assumes you are under oath. Lying to some guy on the street about your chest full of MoH's isn't perjury.

I just gave up my hotel room so I know there's at least one spot open at the Sheraton downtown.

Source: http://www.yourmoneypage.com/withhold/ny2.php Plugged in 70K (and that's cheap for NYC) with local taxes, Medicare, FICA, the whole bit. Take home is 48,734.44. Please, try again. I can do this all night.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you've never spent any quality time outside the United States. You should probably change that before you make such blindingly jingoistic statements.

Time to fix your sarcasmometer. I suggest going to DucRx, they have all the necessary parts in stock.

I'm in, as long as I get to do this: It's cool, I've got my own ball.

Out, will be in TN tomorrow through Thursday. 15 minutes from the Dragon and no bike.

happy birthday christina!

Saw this the other day: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1304865/Controversial-Duggar-family-reveal-12-19-children-came-chicken-pox.html 12 out of 19 kids with chicken pox. I can't imagine how much that sucks.

Asked and answered. This little nugget was on digg this morning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwaNRWMN-F4 The guy in question isn't Muslim. At all. He is, however, black and bearded so he must be a Muslim terrorist, right? How can these assholes call themselves Americans when they are blatantly trampling on one of the core rights of the Constitution? The funny thing is, I'm willing to bet that a LARGE majority of people at that rally weren't from the NYC area, and an even larger majority aren't from the Lower Manhattan area.

Yep, if I was making 250,000 and I was taxed 4% higher, I would just shut down and stop working altogether. You want my mortgage payment? Ask the government, those fuckers have all my money anyway. Food for my kids? Here's some food stamps, go buy some vanilla ice cream. However, if my taxes were to go down, I'd have so much extra money with that additional 3% (out-of-ass number) I'd hire an army of workers! Some would sit around and do nothing, but what do I care? I'd also get a painting of me, no, TWO paintings of me commissioned! Job market's not going to fix itself, I have this extra 3% so I can create jobs for the little people!

As I have stated numerous times before, I absolutely can't stand fearmongering and am all for improving discourse. That doesn't happen when I just let someone dump a truckload of derp onto the thread without getting called on it. So what do you have for me... {quote]But alright. Before we begin, I would like it noted that I said certain areas would be near 50%. {/quote] I will note you said NORTH of 50%, which would indicate to me that the effective tax rate was higher than half. No arguments here about the pie analogy. You are correct in observing the tax base continues to get larger over the years, however that also means there are more people to provide services to. Taking home more money is also a factor, but I think that plays more to inflationary forces than anything else.However, thanks for having well-reasoned arguments. Doesn't that feel better than just throwing a bunch of on the screen?

but you were coming on so strong before! I put together my (apparently) horribly flawed research in about 4 minutes of google searching. Surely you can put together a cliffs notes of reputable sources in, say, 15 minutes. Hell, you just put together your argument 5 hours ago.

OK, I'll bite. Please, show your work in proving that allowing the current tax cuts to expire will result in a 50% total tax liability on someone earning minimum wage. Surely, someone who has thoroughly researched his point and has done the math leading up to his conclusion would have no problem showing how he got there.

"...'cause I'm freeeeeeeeeeee....freeeeeeee ballllllin'...

me too. August is slammed and Sept's filling up fast.

going to try the iron lotus, eh? just as long as you don't try to grab my junk I'm OK with it. I see a lot of black vans, some with better candy than others. My code phrase will be "my, what a lovely tea party."