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His hands weren't up anymore when he got shot. From 00:18 until 00:24 (when he goes down), he was clearly bringing them down. Maybe he was reaching for something.

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I forgot about those guys

Any british soccer fans here?

Whereupon some responsive supporter sent them penis shaped candies.

So literally a bag of dicks?

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Wanking with a fluorescent vest like that is a definite power move

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People keep mailing those Oregon terrorists some dildos

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Of course he will be fined. But that is after they sit down and review the play from different angles and in slow mo. We are talking about plays that are judgement calls in real time.

And with that you're basically admitting it was a missed call on that fumble. I'm not sure you're seeing the disconnect in your case on the game-time result (no personal foul penalty) and the post-game penalty levy stance you think should happen.

If it was incidental, then yes I agree it would be OK to not call a foul. But if it isn't, it absolutely implies that the Shazier spearing wasn't incidental, which is where the refs made the mistake on the judgment call.

Judgment calls aren't easy, but it's very much bullshit when refs decide to be lenient on one side of the ball (Shazier), but fair/harsh on the other (Burfict's hit on Antonio) on such things. Consistency is key and that's why we're even having this discussion. The Burfict hit looked harder than the Shazier hit, but both knocked out players with severe head trauma: Bernard, and Brown respectively.

Then quit trying to justify it as a legal hit....

Pretty much. I'm impartial. I'm a Giants fan

the rule is

ARTICLE 8. INITIATING CONTACT WITH THE CROWN OF THE HELMET. It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team’s end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul.

bolded relevant portion of the Shazier hit.

So no, in this instance, it does NOT matter since it clearly wasn't incidental/consequential