I'm no expert yet but I took the MSF with those Honda 250 Rebels.....didn t feel spunky enough. My 1st ride was a 98 GS500E... spent about 2 months on it before I got my Ducati 748.. I admit it was a quick ascent and it seems i'm fixated on 250CC jumps 0 to 250 to 500 to 750 (748 really but eh...) Thing is, I know I'm no expert and i don t try to do stupid things, especially not in traffic.... This summer I'm planning a track not because I wanna go fast but because I wanna learn MY limits on MY bike in a "safe" haven.