CBBaron

you really want it locked up, or can we totally derail it like normal? I actually have a tangentially related topic that probably isn't worth its own thread.

Was wondering if anyone has seen or owned one of these http://www.travellitecampers.com/models/890Rseries/890Rseries.htm

Way back in the day my family used one of those for vacations. Cramped compared to a motorhome but doable and should be less expensive with much less maintenance.

I agree on 3/4 ton 8ft bed truck recommendation. We started with a 3/4 ton pickup then upgraded to a "Camper Special" which had 1 ton springs with built in tie downs for the camper that made it much more stable. However you fuel economy will stuck with one of these in the bed. That setup got about the same economy as the 26' motorhome we later owned.

Now all of this is based on the unit my family owned 25-30 years ago. The trucks and campers were all well used before we owned them also.

Craig

Wine and bikes don't mix

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I can carry about a case on mine.

Craig

me, 6' 215:

It's not big enough for hardcore offroading, but for playing around or teaching new riders, it can't be beat.

OK you are nearly my size and while it does look like a toy, it doesn't look you stole it from a kindergartner .

Now I need to justify the expense.

Craig

Ay over 6ft isn't everything under 300cc going to make you look "funny".

In many cases true, but there is a little big for the bike and adult riding a toddlers bike big.

Craig

How tiny is an XR100?

I'm guessing I'm (6'2" 220#) going to look pretty funny playing around off road on one.

Craig

You need an endorsement for a 50cc scooter.

You don't need an endorsement for a moped. But it can't be any larger than 50cc, can't make more than 1hp, cant go over 20 mph on a level surface, and must be "pedaled" with a helper motor only.

So, most 50cc scooters don't qualify as a moped and you must have your endorsement.

Hope that clears things up!

I thought I said that already?

And this only applies to Ohio. Other states have different rules. And it appears that Ohio used to have different rules in the recent past.

All very confusing

Craig

haha sweet. PM'd Dubguy85.

Doing the test on a 50cc scooter should be a cinch. Only problem will be getting up to speed for the quick stop test

So pass the test on a scoot and your safe to ride a Busa tomorrow right

Craig

I like the new look, but can't figure out how a dual purpose machine (like any might go off road) can have the engine, oil filter/oil line, Radiator hose, ect. all hanging out in the open with out the perimeter frame or a factory skid plate. Plenty of riders will take these to places like Alaska and rock damage is inevitable. So it's really just a tall bagger. I still like it though.

I agree with you there. I've seen a Strom loose all its oil just due to a good rock hitting the oil filter on a gravel road.

Luckily there are some aftermarket bash plates and engine guards available from several companies, and it looks like the new one has some factory options available.

I still need to get something for mine. I know it only a matter of time before a big rock spills my oil. Last oil change the filter was pretty banged up

Craig

Here is what I found from the motorcycle Ohio website

Moped information

Motor scooter information including this paragraph

In order for an individual to legally operate a motor scooter or mini-motorcycle he or she must be at least 16 years old and hold a valid driver license with a motorcycle endorsement or a motorcycle license. It is important to know Ohio’s road laws and signs before attempting to operate a vehicle of any kind on Ohio’s roadways.

The under 50cc only refers to moped which must have pedals.

Craig

Poor taste by the local Republican party. Whatever the money raised that kind of thing gets much more negative attention than positive.

As far as the comments, I didn't read them because people are idiots

Craig

Thats embarassing

I had read the rules on mopeds but not the definition of a moped.

I wonder how places on Put-in-Bay get away with renting scooters to just about anyone.

Also these rules may not apply to other states.

Craig

seriously? I'm all for it.

I don't believe you can take the test on a 50cc bike. In Ohio those do not require an endorsement.

Craig

-edit- this is incorrect. A 50cc and smaller MOPED(pedal assist) does not require a motorcycle endorsement in Ohio but a SCOOTER does. Thanks for correcting me conn-e-rot.

-edit2- Given the correction above it appears that you CAN take the riding skills test with a licensed 50cc motorscooter.

I was un available during the draft but got on now.

I guess my draft is OK but why in the world did I pick up Chad Henne puke

Craig

Yes I can get on,

The "Live Draft" starts 45 min before the draft start. So you can't change rankings any more.

Trying to set up the Yahoo Fantasy app but I logged in using my Google account. So trying to work through that issue.

The app does not appear to do the draft any way so its really no big deal.

Craig

OK Im hitting register now

Craig

I'm ready to register but won't be available to draft tonight. Is there any option for a delay or an absentee draft?

Craig

I have no real aesthetic sense so it more about how the bike functions. The current light function very well and the new one doesn't appear to change that much. Currently the aerodynamics are decent for protection but poor for buffeting. The new one definitely changes that but I will have to test to see if it improves.

I definitely like the new Vstrom but don't see any reason to pay new bike prices to replace my `04 yet. I don't even have 20k on it yet (bought it this year with 14k) so it will be a while before I need to replace.

Craig

If you want to improve your chances try walking in to a class when the weekend weather prediction is poor. Thats sure to drive up the no shows.

You can always let your permit expire and get a new one when you are ready to ride. It only takes a few minutes for the test and another $25+-.

Sorry for your mishap. Good luck with your riding.

Craig

How about legal and not taxed?

Such a thing exists?

I've dropped my Vstrom twice a low speed. Once when the engine was cold and it stalled as I went to pull out of a parking lot. I call that a stupid newbie mistake.

The second time was decending a muddy rutted "road" where the front end slipped out from under me. That one pinned my foot between the bike and muddy bank until someone could give me a hand. I don't think that should count

Craig

+1, in past seasons when people who were supposed to be proficient at a specific weapon type and didn't hold their own, they volunteered themselves first.

I like that they show the statistics of everyone's performance on the challenges this season, so now we can immediately call B.S. Mike def. had the next to worst hit percentage, yet bitched about Drew not hitting stuff when Drew was the second best performer. Anyone think they should show the contestants the actual hit counts?

Mike is a total d**k on the show. And delusional, I can't believe no one noticed how off he was on his stats.

However I don't think they should give the results to the contestants during the show. It allows for interesting politicking and for to complain about the d**ks

I really thought the elimination challenge was cool. That would be a cool contraption to build.

Craig

Wow! Quickest tag EVAR! I didn't know that the tag was a re-use So many good tag location near the Codd, too... Rock Hall, Goodtime III, William G. Mather, etc

Nice quick work, Agent!

Nope not a re-use, used in a different tag game. It all good even if a reuse

If you want to see a usually fast paced tag game check out the Farnsey (Ohio) tag game at advrider. I've seen them get 3 tags in the same day on multiple different occasions. On a nice day if you don't post from a smart phone you will likely be bruced (that thread originated the term) by someone else.

Urban riding can be fun. Especially at off hours. Interesting noone was on Marginal Rd. at that time in the morning but cross RT2 into downtown and it is bumper to bumper.

I then came down Independence Rd. through the steel yards and got to see some heavy equipment at play. Coming the other way was a front loader that could have easily swallowed a car, with bigger vehicles in the yards.

Craig

Up next

See if you can find this abandoned building

Craig

TAG

USS Cod, North Marginal Rd., Cleveland

I couldn't pass this up again. The ADVrider NEO tag was in this location about a week ago and the ADVrider North American Wildcard Tag was a submarine a couple days ago. I miss both of those, so felt I had to get this tag

Craig

I started with an `06 Ninja250. Paid $1600 for it with 1k miles in Nov `09. Traded it in to a dealer for $1500 with 5k miles in Dec `10.

However I think I got a real good deal when I bought, probably because I bought in the off season.

I would say $2k for a pre 08 in good shape is a decent deal, and they make excellent starter bikes. Light, forgiving and easy to ride, but are reasonably fast. Sure they are slow compared to the rockets you can buy, but they are faster than the average car and will do freeway+ speeds with ease.

I would have kept mine except at 6'2" I'm a little cramped on the small bike. Though the stock position on a ZX-6 is even tighter.

Nice thing is even if you do feel the need to upgrade you can sell for nearly what you paid, unless you destroy it. Its had to even ride own a larger bike for a year without losing more than you paid for an old EX250.

Craig