OK school me on them then. I am a honda guy and dont venture toward much unless it has wings or is really cheap. The 650R is a twin cylinder? so does that make the SV a twin? I am assuming so, when I saw Tpoppa's SV1 It was (and I kind of knew that) but do not know if I have seen the 650? This is for a very in-experienced rider. She will get the XR while she is learning and I will give her whatever I come up with after that. (I have looked at a older 90's model Katana that Big3 has, But being a inline 4 I am thinking it would have too much pep for her to graduate from a single into that)?