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Sorry, thought about the fact that I am only responding on my own page....didn't know how you'd get a notification on my response now I know. It's gotten way too cool for us all of a sudden. Makes riding very cold. My first season of riding I know that I won't go too far when it's in the 50's. It eventually sucks the heat right out of you. Hope the Oct 6 ride is a lot warmer or I won't attempt it.