I disagree with most of what you said. As far as the shape of the building....that's the genius behind the dealer. It's Jeff and Joyce's old HOME, which I am sure by now is paid off. Therefore, they have very little overhead....two parts guys, maybe 4..2 to 3 sales guys, maybe 3 service people and my boy Josh. I have never known them to rape on prices...If a person gets raped on a motorcycle deal, they didn't do their homework before when they went shopping. Any price given to you, if you aren't sure should be compared in every dealer in the area. If they aren't smart enough to do such, you can't be mad at the dealer for charging full retail on a unit. Their service is no worse than any other dealer in the area. I started to trust MOC service, but so much for that. I don't care how clean the place is....I need a bike then i'm outta there. Hinds will be around for a long time..that place has made J&J pretty well off. As for Jeff's vintage racing...what's the diff between that and what you do(no offense)....Max races, too and is damn good....it's their hobby. Lizard, I am not starting a pissing match with you...just disagreeing..Also, I have no stock in Hinds...I just no of the many bikes I have bought, new, from all the places in Cols...Hinds is the best place to go and trust me Jeff and I did not see eye to eye for a while, but it's been straightened out and it's all good.