Never the less, the suspension on that quad isn't setup for fast rough terrain w/ jumps and such. A friend used to ride a Honda Rancher quad with us there and he'd be getting his ass kicked left and right. Bought a 400ex...whole new smoother ride. I guess it's all in what you want the quad for. If it's for occasional rides at Wayne/Perry or other woods...I would not get a utility quad. Sport quad all the way....Doesn't have to be the new bad ass 450s/525s, but along those lines.