Jester851

bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come out for this people, it should be a fun time, and an awesome lead up to the Supercycle weekend at Mid-Ohio.

My deepest condolence's to you and your family.............I just can't imagine what you're going through, i have a four month old girl at home...........i would be completely devastated.

Man, you're getting old and ratted out but GLWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy Birfday mang!!!

I might be down tonight. I'm outta PBR at the house.

You working?

yeah I got ur hook up;)

update

after seeing this thread and thanks to moose sticking his neck out

i got a pm and a call yesterday as i was walking into work

so i went back down today

i worked with the original guy i talked to this time, kenny i believe

he was very cool to deal with

i test rode the bike, everything looked, worked, and sounded as it it should

he worked with me on the trade in value on my bike and we made a deal

and he even kicked in a $50 iron pony gift card on top of it.

they made the situation right

and im glad they did

im happy with the FJR!

Hob- Glad we were able to make this deal right for you. It seems as though we had a bit of a communication break down on the FJR's status and unfortunately the deal proceeded before this was discovered. For that I am personally sorry. As with any business transaction there is always a potential for mistakes, thanks for the opportunity to make it right. Come back and see us, we appreciate your business.

yes, but how accurate is the training? ben is right, they usually go out with a group, guess speeds then check it with a radar. problem is that radar is not 100% accurate all the time.

when was their training radar calibrated? what was the repair history on it, what condition was it in during training? how old is it? how has it been stored?

if the radar they used during training is not accurate, then their training is not accurate.

oh i agree. I wasn't incinuating that the training was right, just the fact they are trained in visual speed estimation, whether it's accurate training, I can't speak to that.

bump??? I wish i knew more about this.

what material is the case made of? I mean personally i would fix it>

If I'm not mistaken, an estimated speed was only okay when there was an accident. The only thing the supreme court upheld was the lower court's ruling that estimated speed was okay for a speeding ticket.

Not trying to e-argue buddy, I will look and see what i can find on this later tonight, but i think they actually train on visual speed estimation.

But now they can.

They could before- the supreme court is up holding a previous decision. We are just now finding out about it.

I have a couple of problems with this:

- Direct from the syllabus of the ruling: "...and is experienced in visually estimating vehicle speed."

Seems to me that "experienced" is open to interpretation. Does "experience" entail watching 400 cars per shift, 200 shifts per year, and 2 years of doing nothing but traffic patrol? Or is it 5 years? Or 1 month?

("Santimarino" is the policeman who wrote the original speeding citation)

- Direct from the ruling: "...In order to be certified by OPOTA, Santimarino was required to show that he could visually estimate a vehicle’s speed to within three to four miles per hour of the vehicle’s actual speed..." "Santimarino testified that based on his training and experience, he had estimated that Jenney’s vehicle was traveling 70 miles per hour..." "...he observed that the radar unit indicated that Jenney’s vehicle was traveling at 82 miles per hour."

So in order to pass the "I can visually guesstimate your speed" certification, you have to be within 3-4 mph of the actual speed. The officer guessed/estimated the appellant's speed to be 70, when in fact, if his radar is to be believed, the true speed was 82. For those that have trouble with math, the difference is 12, not 3-4 as required in order to be certified. Giving the officer the benefit of the doubt, he was 200% beyond the margin of error that one is allowed and still be certified.

I will cede that <some> officers, perhaps a majority of those that regulary perform traffic patrol, perhaps a minority, are able to visually estimate a vehicle's speed within the 3-4 mph certification guideline. I will not, however, say that Santimarino, the officer in question, is able to. He proved his lack of ability to do so unequivocally in this case.

I don't see how the Supremes were able to rule the way they did in this case. The facts certainly did NOT support the ruling.

^^^^^^^Agreed! I think if you ask around, a majority of traffic enforcement officers are going to tell you that it's much easier to get a ticket upheld in court if some type of speed measuring tool was used. Most officers don't do this type of guesstimating, they have a radar, and a laser in every car in most cases.

Youre wrong. Only the people that have the money to fight and actually understand what is going on that is wrong will fight. I would say 85% of the population this happens to will not fight due to the effort involved or wont have the funds to fight it.

Well Put- at the end of the day who can afford to take a day off work, pay for an attorney if you want any chance at winning, to wind up paying anyway.

awesome.

But what kind of ticket will they give you exactly? I know theres like certain degrees of speeding tickets. What kind will this be? will it put points on your license/insurance? or just a pay-up ticket?

E) In every charge of violation of this section the affidavit and warrant shall specify the time, place, and speed at which the defendant is alleged to have driven, and in charges made in reliance upon division © of this section also the speed which division (B)(1)(a), (2), (3), (4), (6), (7), or (8) of, or a limit declared or established pursuant to, this section declares is prima-facie lawful at the time and place of such alleged violation, except that in affidavits where a person is alleged to have driven at a greater speed than will permit the person to bring the vehicle to a stop within the assured clear distance ahead the affidavit and warrant need not specify the speed at which the defendant is alleged to have driven.

I believe your drive gears & gear lube are contained in there. I wouldn't call it a minor problem, but I definitely wouldn't put it in the water with that crack in the lower unit. With any luck you can just replace the housing and refill with gear lube, but you won't know that until you open her up.

Yeah, what he said. You definitley don't want to let that go....you will end up with water in the lower unit.

i took quite a few this morning. Sorting them all out now, I'll post em up in the original thread.

We should get a great turn out, I've heard lots of folks talking about it. Thanks to everyone on here who's coming out. A big thanks to Jagr as well, he's been pumping this event and doing some leg work with the Patriot Guard Riders as well.

there is a choochoo in your hoohoo!!!

I think kawi is on to something here......

My conspiracy theory............bike was previously owned by Sam.

Good post indeed. Hope Yota learns something from it

^^^^^^^^^^^No he didn't!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^

:lol:

here is how the first book/movie should have ended.........Edward and Bella smoke a doobie, Edward gets the munchies, eats Bella, end of story. No need to continue more time waste with sequels.

They were overwhelmed. Not a biggy. The younger girls were on it. That older lady was flabbergasted. Jim said he has no problem bumping up his staffing for us. .

so the service wasn't too hot, but how was the pie? I can cast aside a slow waitress if the pizza is amazing. Have you seen me lately? I likes Pizza:banana:

I definitely wouldn't call Jeds bbq. It's more of a boneless wings joint. But whatever I guess. Their chicken is good.

Hey the name sounds good right? At least they can fool you once and get you in the door.

Jed is garbage and to call that a bbq joint is a joke. No brisket or ribs im good. You'd be shot down south for calling that a bbq joint

agreed, eaten there twice, not impressed

Wifey bought me a gift card for valentine's day - is there any way I can use that for an online order, or do I have to come into the store?

order by phone would be a tolerable compromise...

PM sent.

The Dave Ramsey program..............

Anyone here tried it, or still doing it? I just finished the book and started my "makeover" yesterday I am pretty excited about it.

^^^^^Agreed, i know at the shop we used to not require a deposit for special order items, and found ourselves with a bunch of items no one ever picked up at the end of every month. Since then we have changed our deposit policy on special orders and rarely find one not picked up. I would think a 50% deposit on any service up to $250, then maybe 25% on anything above that would be more than acceptable.

6 to 1, half a dozen the other. I am sure there are some abusers, not like there weren't any before the economy took a shit. The problem I see now, even as the economy begins to make a comeback, the higher paying jobs that were eliminated aren't coming back as quickly. That combined with the fact that an employer with an entry level opening is probably going to pass over the "over qualified" applicant knowing that they will probably leave as soon a good paying postion comes along again.