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  17. Mid Ohio Aug. 22-24 or Sept. 1

    in Track is Crack

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    1 minute ago, RHill said:

    For passing in a corner....I don't have a problem with it as long as it is within the rules and doesn't cause the other rider to change his/her line....either directly or by startling them.  I learned on a tired 600, a lot of the time only option to pass was in a corner.

    Pass them on the brakes! I know I know I know, lot's of hate for doing that. Still think it's safer than a mid corner pass.

  18. Mid Ohio Aug. 22-24 or Sept. 1

    in Track is Crack

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    3 minutes ago, J_Copeland said:

    The slower groups moved over.
    We did do the lead,follow for 2 sessions.
    We had 2 then went to 3 with my buddy Mike.
    He had a off during the leapfrog,so we were back at 2.

    So did you get the bump to I group? Anyone evaluate for a bump? Was the last two sessions open track?

  19. Mid Ohio Aug. 22-24 or Sept. 1

    in Track is Crack

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    8 minutes ago, J_Copeland said:

    Let's just say my coach "Bam Bam" was not running novice pace.
    We were on it from 1st session,while the other groups were going snail pace or less.
    Now that would be a waste for the more experienced rider.

     

    What happened when you ran up on a slower group? Did you do the lead follow? How many guys riders in that group?

  20. Mid Ohio Aug. 22-24 or Sept. 1

    in Track is Crack

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    7 minutes ago, RHill said:

     

    Novice has to be geared toward fresh meat, not the experienced rider.  I wouldn't recommend it either, and honestly I'm surprised the let riders bump down to N because of a sold out group.  I remember 2 years ago around the last AMA race, I & A sold out.....A riders bumped to N and created a bunch of issues.

     

    Do they now require novice for a rider new to the track?  Never heard of that before.  I could understand "hand holding" for the first session in intermediate, but throwing someone in novice because it is the first time at a track is pretty extreme. 

    The video thing is awesome.....I've always recommended video, and always have at least 1 camera going when on track.  My first trackday ever with MotoSeries, Jinu was rolling around novice with the camera going...seeing yourself really puts things in perspective.

    If the more experienced riders respect the rules of N group shouldn't be a problem. Usually passing in the straights is the rule of thumb. In all actuality I don't believe in passing in the corners on track days. Racers don't do it unless the guy ahead breaks too deep and blows a corner.

    Yes, when I registered Intermediate was requested. They asked if I had rode Mid-O and I was honest. She told me everyone new to the track had to be in Novice. But because I did not research and read all the rules I went in thinking a way different mindset. I never seen a Novice group run that way.

    The video is a phenomenal tool. All coaches should have one and a laptop. Seeing your body position, how early you are REALLY braking is a great leaning tool. Plus someone always has video evidence of rules being broke. Sitting out a session is a great way to enforce rules.

  21. Mid Ohio Aug. 22-24 or Sept. 1

    in Track is Crack

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    2 minutes ago, i-Zapp said:

    Any novice at a new track does. The Novice program shouldn't be about letting new riders use a rented track, but rather a concerted, regimented program to methodically "train" new riders to become competent and safe at speed. Three watered-down coaching sessions in the morning, then throw-them-to-the-wolves after lunch is not that. I brought a brand new rider to MidO a few months back, and based on his feedback the current program is a far cry from the classroom sessions and track drills I went through 10 years ago.

    We all have different opinions and learning styles. Just because you haven't rode at a certain track, does not make you a "NOVICE". My opinion. And as a paying customer this is how I felt.

    I just jumped back into the track after a long layoff. Did a track day at Texas World Speedway with Ride Smart. I was blown away with the technology that group used. In the past a instructor would say "you are off line in turn three and parking it turn 12--carry more speed", and the student would reply "No I'm not". Ride Smart coaches actually follows with go-pro's, then sitting in a air condition classroom is mandatory after each session. The coaches would dissect your video---and videos don't lie! Gradually throughout the day they would loosen up on the passing rules. If you came up to a group that was being "coached", a clean pass of the whole group was expected--or get the wrath. There is room for improvement how they run the novice group---in my opinion.

  23. Mid-Ohio - Labor Day Sept. 5th

    in Events

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    10 hours ago, Perception said:

    It will actually be my first track day. I'm still trying to figure out how I'm going to get my bike there, as I don't have a trailer or know of anyone that does.

    Might be a slight chance I'll be there seeing how the family is still in Texas. Currently I only have a hitch carrier, however if you find a trailer I'll tow you up there. (U-Haul). I'm in Powell. You taking the 300?

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