Lizard, let me ask this and i am just going to use round numbers. You and I go to dealer and say we want a buddy pack, say 2 R6's. Say price on bike is $9000. So we say we want 2, they say we will give you 2 for $7500 each in the buddy pack, assuming we are going to finance. Well then we have $15,000+freight, tax, shipping, storage, .025gallons of gas, etc. Now the price is $16,000, we pull out $16,000 cash money, what do they do? Will they refuse it cause you're not financing and they are getting screwed or do they honor it. Or, do they stick their forked tongue out to speak and start lying about why they can not do the deal. Or other? Sorry for the length, just wanted to be specific because a friend and I are considering 2 new dirtbikes.