and also as blake quoted i put it in the first post about the ride and the pace. we kept everysingle person on this forum that came across the coshocton co. line on 2 wheels. mikes not on this forum but i talk to the guy every day and he already said it was his fault, didnt say one word about blaming the group, the roads or the length of the grass. the group broke itself down into smaller groups and we had coshocton guys all mixed in each group. fuck i went 35 mph at the very back of the group on one of my fav. roads just to make sure a guy made it, and then stopped for a couple mins and talked to him as i knew the rest of the group would be waiting for us at our predeterimed spot. i just want ppl to come here have fun, experince the ride, the crew and area, and i get defensive when ppl who dont come here tell ppl not to come here cuz the pace is to fast, the roads are to curvy and we'll leave u behind stuck in a guardrail when none of its true.