Geez, I was purposely AVOIDING this thread b/c I didn't want to read anything but it was just you guys saying how you haven't watched it yet. Stop reading if you have yet to see the episode. Holy crap!! I cannot believe that the Oceanic folks are a major part of the REASON that Ben turned out the way that he did!! Also, I was so pissed at Kate when she turned up for the flight w/o Aaron, but now that I know why she did it, I totally am on her side again. And what a slimy snake Jack was in this episode. How callous to refuse medical treatment to little Ben, just because of who he turns out to be in the future. Hurley was really on to something....... Man, good episode!