but to get back on point, why would it matter to have a win over a very crappy michigan team??? I mean Notre Dame beat them.... come on now.... not that I'm down playing a michigan loss to ND but we are talking about ND HERE!! OSU will wipe the floor with michigan... thus making it a very uninteresting game to watch... I'd rather see more games like the USC game where a win for the Bucks would actually mean something... if they had won....