TopLeft Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 All, I'm looking for input and experience with gun safes. As it stands right now with my research, I'm leaning towards the Liberty Lincoln 25 model with a couple options. Size is the major influence as it'll be navigated up stairs to 2nd floor and placed on base to distribute the weight. Shy of that, feel free to post away advice, and thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I just bought a Fort Knox safe. I did A LOT of research before buying and I felt the Fort Knox safes were the best for me. The best feature IMO is dual access via regular combo lock OR keypad in the event the keypad breaks or is disabled. FK has a lifetime warranty on it but you know shit will break on a holiday just when you REALLY need to get in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowdog Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 You cannot go wrong with that Liberty in my opinion. I have the fat boy and I love it but no way in hell I would want to try and have taken up stairs. Pretty sure when I build my house I will be dropping it in the basement before the 1st floor walls are even built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I have an older Liberty Colonial 23, great safe for the price. If your after the Lincoln, they are built better yet. The only recommendation would be to overbuy on capacity, figure on about double the guns you currently have or expect to have in the near future. I have 14 long guns in a safe designed for 25 and they rub each other. It's a very tight fit, so much that I have half of them in gun socks so that they don't scratch each other. As for putting it on the second floor, pay to have a safe moving company do it. I did for mine and it made things a cake walk. They have a special battery powered climbing handtruck that does all the lifting with the push of a button. My steps have a landing with a 180 degree turn and they had no problem getting it up both sections. As for setting it on a base, it will be more important to get the safe sitting on more than 1 floor joist. Mine is in a closet that backs up to the main load bearing wall in the center of the house. Setting on two floor joists the floor loading is not all that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Once you get one, add foam weather stripping to the "inside " lips/edges. The edges facing in towards the safe so you don't scratch ur guns while getting them out. Or put your guns in socks. Can't tell you how many times I've scratched my rifles going in and out of the safe. Ticks me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) This is what I got... Edited November 6, 2013 by ScubaCinci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopLeft Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Once you get one, add foam weather stripping to the "inside " lips/edges. The edges facing in towards the safe so you don't scratch ur guns while getting them out. Or put your guns in socks. Can't tell you how many times I've scratched my rifles going in and out of the safe. Ticks me off. Noted! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopLeft Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I have an older Liberty Colonial 23, great safe for the price. If your after the Lincoln, they are built better yet. The only recommendation would be to overbuy on capacity, figure on about double the guns you currently have or expect to have in the near future. I have 14 long guns in a safe designed for 25 and they rub each other. It's a very tight fit, so much that I have half of them in gun socks so that they don't scratch each other. As for putting it on the second floor, pay to have a safe moving company do it. I did for mine and it made things a cake walk. They have a special battery powered climbing handtruck that does all the lifting with the push of a button. My steps have a landing with a 180 degree turn and they had no problem getting it up both sections. As for setting it on a base, it will be more important to get the safe sitting on more than 1 floor joist. Mine is in a closet that backs up to the main load bearing wall in the center of the house. Setting on two floor joists the floor loading is not all that high. The Lincoln is about the largest I think I can get up the stairs, otherwise it would be larger. (heavy sigh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiodeere Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Gun safes are like garages. NEVER big enough.. I've upgraded 3 times now. Buy the biggest safe you can absolutely afford. Trust me. you won't regret it. I have now a Timber Ridge (Liberty) 64 guns. its a good, well built safe IMHO. I also have a 32. You'll find that you will want to store more than just guns in it. also. I'll kiss you ass if you can get near the amount they advertise in long rifles in it with out scratching any of them. Figure you'll get 70% of the number guns in it. especially if you have any with scopes on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopLeft Posted November 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Thanks for the anti-scratching advice, as it's something I hadn't considered! Looking at the addition of more LED lighting to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowdog Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Don't forget a nice moisture control system. I bought one from Cabelas that is real nice and has a moisture indicator on it, when it gets full you just plug it into the wall for 24hrs then put it back in your safe and you are good to go, Cant think of the brand name of it right now but I would look when I get home and try to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopLeft Posted November 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Pondered this, but it won't be in cold basement, rather the top floor. May do it regardless but not sure what advantage I'll gain. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopLeft Posted November 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Liberty offers a remote alert system for alerts: opening, tilt, fire etc. I'm opting to wire it with home alarm if possible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Safe porn.....get it? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopLeft Posted November 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Don't forget a nice moisture control system. I bought one from Cabelas that is real nice and has a moisture indicator on it, when it gets full you just plug it into the wall for 24hrs then put it back in your safe and you are good to go, Cant think of the brand name of it right now but I would look when I get home and try to post.What did you find? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopLeft Posted November 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Safe porn.....get it? LOL(Groan!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 In the end of this video, they mention various de-humidifier options. It's a pretty informative video too. I might've originally seen the link on this very site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 also. I'll kiss you ass if you can get near the amount they advertise in long rifles in it with out scratching any of them. Figure you'll get 70% of the number guns in it. especially if you have any with scopes on them. Very very good advice. I have this problem. Go BIGGER than you think you'll need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowdog Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 What did you find?Mine is the Browning model, has three different lights on it to show you the amount of moisture in the system and when to recharge. I haven't figured out how to post pictures yet but if you want to PM me your phone number or e mail I can send you a picture. I picked mine up from Cabala's for $49.99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopLeft Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopLeft Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 To countermeasure the weight distribution concern, I plan on double (triple?) layers of 3/4" plywood the for the entire closet (about 18 square feet) foor and rest the safe atop. Height clearance isn't an issue, and the it'll be covered with a cloth for presentation. Kinda "Appalachian William" I know, but cant easily find a strong easily cut plastic base like those plastic pallets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowdog Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 I was wrong, its a Liberty. Pic incoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 To be secure, the safe should be bolted to the floor, preferably to concrete. It may be heavy but if you moved it in, someone can move it out and work on opening it at their leisure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Not if its full of coke. That shits heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Well yeah, if you're storing stuff for MT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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