vf1000ride Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) If you brought the 1911 you would probably throw it in the river on the way home. It's not often someone hates a 3 thousand dollar gun until they spend a day with us.Not looking to start a fight but have you seen guys have troubles with the higher end 1911's? What kinds? Edited September 28, 2014 by kawi kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Not looking to start a fight but have you seen guys have troubles with the higher end 1911's? What kinds?I've been very critical of the current crop of mid-level 1911s like the Kimber custom line. I felt that a $1300 gun should not need to break-in before becoming reliable. I felt that I could never really trust it if I don't know whether it's done breaking in or not. That was until I really had a conversation with an owner. He pulled out his Kimber (verified it was unloaded of course) and let me play with it. The tolerances are so extremely tight by design, the break-in period is really a final step in manufacturing. His gun went from "I wanna send this POS back and sue these bastards" to 100% reliable after shooting the crap out if it. Most of the interwebz hate out there is from people like me, used to 100% out-of-the box reliability from our Smith/Glock/XD/Sig/Walther/HK/Beretta. If you buy a 1911, plan on spending some money on rounds and range time to finish the job the manufacturer started. If this concept isn't for you, get a $400-$900 gun from the list above and you will be accurate and reliable. I don't have a 1911 anymore, but I do regret selling that Colt. I'll have another one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Going to build me up a Multicam Black AIWB holster for the G17, when I get some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Not looking to start a fight but have you seen guys have troubles with the higher end 1911's? What kinds?We have had some but not a ton. We see more of an efficiency issue which was the problem. The guy I was talking about never went out and ran his gun hard under stress. He went to the range a lot and shot hundreds of round through it but never really ran it like you would in a life or death situation. After seeing how how the gun and him performed under stress together as one he realized what we were getting at the whole morning when we were talking about firearm selection and the difference between effective and efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf1000ride Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) That's cool, I thought maybe you had seen common mechanical failures. Can certainly understand what your seeing with range time versus effective usage.C-Bus, continue to be critical. I agree that the current mid to high end 1911 guns are built too tight. They are kinda like an AK, the like having a little more play in the parts. It may seem like blasphemy but the first day I had my Kimber I loaded the slide rails with a thinned down aluminum polish and manually racked the slide a couple hundred times. All the break in of 2-300 rounds without the ammo costs. Took it to the range after that and it has been flawless since. Edited September 28, 2014 by vf1000ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 We have seen failures come from more single action handgun than any other action type. That speaks a lot about their reliability and why they are low on our recommended list for self defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 0929141712c by 4DAIVIPAI2K5, on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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madcat6183 Posted October 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I like that, can I lick it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BadTrainDriver Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) I've been very critical of the current crop of mid-level 1911s like the Kimber custom line. I felt that a $1300 gun should not need to break-in before becoming reliable. I felt that I could never really trust it if I don't know whether it's done breaking in or not. That was until I really had a conversation with an owner. He pulled out his Kimber (verified it was unloaded of course) and let me play with it. The tolerances are so extremely tight by design, the break-in period is really a final step in manufacturing. His gun went from "I wanna send this POS back and sue these bastards" to 100% reliable after shooting the crap out if it. Most of the interwebz hate out there is from people like me, used to 100% out-of-the box reliability from our Smith/Glock/XD/Sig/Walther/HK/Beretta. If you buy a 1911, plan on spending some money on rounds and range time to finish the job the manufacturer started. If this concept isn't for you, get a $400-$900 gun from the list above and you will be accurate and reliable. I don't have a 1911 anymore, but I do regret selling that Colt. I'll have another one day. If someone has the money and a desire for a 1911 Kimber, they should get a Dan Wesson. Edited October 7, 2014 by BadTrainDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Or the common sense to not carry a 1911. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadTrainDriver Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Or the common sense to not carry a 1911. Mine has gone bang every time I've needed it to, and I'd not hesitate to take it anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 1006142112 by 4DAIVIPAI2K5, on Flickr 1006142111a by 4DAIVIPAI2K5, on FlickrSure is big, Craigypoo is now carrying AIWB too, talked him into it as well. He said he's carrying a Dessert Eagle down there cuz his junk is so small it fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Sure is big, Craigypoo is now carrying AIWB too, talked him into it as well. He said he's carrying a Dessert Eagle down there cuz his junk is so small it fits. dual wielding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Sure is big, Craigypoo is now carrying AIWB too, talked him into it as well. He said he's carrying a Dessert Eagle down there cuz his junk is so small it fits. I really think that a full size carries better IWB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I really think that a full size carries better IWB. I really don't see how, I have a hard enough time sitting AIWB with my S&W compact and the full size would just make it that much harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I cant the holster when I sit. Sitting becomes no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Mine has gone bang every time I've needed it to, and I'd not hesitate to take it anywhere.Going bang doesn't make up for the lack of rounds you are able to carry or the high bore axis and the manual safety. If it works for you great, but I choose a more efficient gun and encourage people to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Adam, you are such a holster whore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 My EDC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 This is how my most recent holster started.After a few days of modifications to make it fit better it is now super comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I prefer a single soft loop over the fomi clips or hard loops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 It's what I had at my house to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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