How to Vote - No ID needed

[sturg]

Arguing on the internet, over politics, involving people who have no intention of being open to other opinions but only want to push their ideas is probably one of the most futile exercises known to man.  

 

I think the saying goes "Fighting on the internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded'

 

Furthermore, anyone (regardless of view or party affiliation) who frequently and uninvitedly talks about politics is immediately disregarded in my book. Shit happened all the time at the fire department.  These people present their opinions in such a way that is so stand-offish that they end up isolating themselves.  People do this all the time and have no idea of their actions because no one wants to talk to them.

[Tomcat0403]

I understand from your view that you see it as a contradictions, i see it (right now as an OH resident) as reasonable means to exercise my rights balanced with the safety of the public.  

[Strictly Street]

Christ!

 

At least make this thread have some results and use the link below to see if you're registered and if not get registered. Perhaps you can find out if your dead grandmother is still registered to vote while you're at it.

 

http://voterlookup.sos.state.oh.us/voterlookup.aspx

 

Notice to All Voters

Voters must bring identification to the polls in order to verify identity. Identification may include current and valid photo identification, a military identification, or a copy of a current

 

(within the last 12 months) utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document, other than a notice of an election or a voter registration notification sent by a board of elections, that shows the voter’s name and current address. Voters who do not provide one of these documents will still be able to vote by providing the last four digits of the voter’s Social Security number and by casting a provisional ballot pursuant to R.C. 3505.181.

 

 

Good link!

Ohio has done a pretty good job of trying to clean up the voter roles. I did see a link once to voter history which was interesting.

(Seems I voted in primaries that I really didn't which is what got me thinking on this voter fraud by ballot stuffing in the first place.)

If anybody has that link, post it up. Ought to be interesting.

 

Other states not so much. While some have even changed the rules so fraud is invited and it would seem encouraged.

10 States now issue ID to non-citizens with more on the way. While this does not register them to vote in all 10 states it is a foot in the door.

 

If you think that it is a bad idea to have non-citizens voting, keeping an eye on the rules might be a good idea.

Details like provisional ballots and the regulations on overseas soldiers voting might also be something to look for.

(in the 2000 election a lot of them were received to late to be counted. An odd coincidence to be sure.)

 

Early voting can also be used to subvert the vote depending on the rules of your state  (Not everyone on this board is in Ohio)

 

With Obama rumored to be ready to import up to 10% of the population by executive order after the mid term elections this is a real issue.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/matthew-vadum/obama-prepping-amnesty-for-34-million/

 

Sadly the only way to stop this is to having to prove citizenship to vote which is never going to happen in our political climate.

[magley64]

By the way, your video is complete bullshit scare mongering. It's video from August, he's dropping off absentee ballots from a primary months ago. Perfectly legal.

[Strictly Street]

Link please

[magley64]

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/arizona-voting-scandal-isnt-scandalous-after-all

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2014/10/phoenix_arizona_voter_fraud_ballot_stuffing_in_phoenix_shows_a_perfectly_legal_practice.php

http://www.laopinion.com/arizona-group-accused-of-ballot-stuffing-asks-for-an-apology&template=mobile_redesign

http://m.tucsonweekly.com/TheRange/archives/2014/10/27/oh-poor-teabaggers-sorry-mexicans-are-so-scary

Edited October 29, 2014 by magley64

[Strictly Street]

The video was mislabeled it would seem.

 

However the controversy isn't going away. Without any way to tell who is voting there will always be questions about it.

Lawsuits http://watchdog.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/10/2014-10-24-1-Complaint1.pdf

are being brought over the issue and a lot of questions are being asked about it.

 

Obama's insistence in importing people and legitimizing them by pen and phone is being questioned. He apparently plans on bringing in enough of them to be statistically relevant.

 

The lawsuit mentioned above is being brought against Maryland for making the vote too open, in effect inviting fraud.

 

An excerpt from the article;

 

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Lowering the bar for voting while raising the opportunity for fraud, a Maryland task force wants to “modernize” the state’s online registration process — and much more.

 

Maryland already has some of the loosest election rules in the nation. No ID is required to vote. Effective this month, individuals can register online by inputting a name, birth date and the last four digits of their Social Security number.

 

The Right to Vote Task Force seeks to knock down even those rules. The Montgomery County panel — 10 Democrats, three Republicans, one independent and one Green Party member appointed by the County Council — would not require proof of legal residency to register.

 

No proof of residency?

Here's the link to the story;

http://watchdog.org/171259/maryland-voter-fraud/

 

Another excerpt;

Logan Churchwell, spokesman for True the Vote, said the Montgomery County task force is promoting “a soft universal registration law.”

He said Maryland, which already offers election-day registration, is pursuing a “state laboratory approach without triggering constitutional scrutiny.” Many of the task force ideas hail from Takoma Park, Md., where undocumented residents are permitted to vote in city elections.

 

The case will be in court, for a judge to decide on it's merits. But the fact there are court cases says something all by itself.

 

'True the Vote' was one of the groups targeted by the IRS. Which it would seem the IRS tried to silence by it's actions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/21/conservative-group-true-the-vote-sues-irs-over-being-subject-to-heightened-scrutiny/

[magley64]

Conservative bloggers just needed to generate some rage before the election, that's all.

[Strictly Street]

Conservative bloggers just needed to generate some rage before the election, that's all.

 

From your counter posts, so do the liberal bloggers

[magley64]

From your counter posts, so do the liberal bloggers

LoL if responding to bullshit by calling it out as bullshit is "generating rage" then yeah, I guess so.

[mattm]

(Seems I voted in primaries that I really didn't which is what got me thinking on this voter fraud by ballot stuffing in the first place.)

Link Please.... Edited October 30, 2014 by mattm

[mattm]

 

(in the 2000 election a lot of them were received to late to be counted. An odd coincidence to be sure.)

 

Link please.  

[magley64]

Gotta give megyn Kelly an iota of credit for retracting her bullshit Colorado voting fraud story from last week, but she still made up a scenario regarding union bosses stealing ballots.

[Strictly Street]

LoL if responding to bullshit by calling it out as bullshit is "generating rage" then yeah, I guess so.

 

If 'Rage" is determined by the tone or demeanor of the post it clearly works both ways.

 

Link Please....

 

If you will note I forgot the link and asked if somebody could post it.

It's from the State or perhaps the League Of Women Voters.

Listing not who you voted for but whether or not you did vote in the primary's.

Seems I voted in a primary when I was out of town and didn't use a mail in ballot.

Perhaps it was a calibration error.

 

Link please.  

 

http://www.jeffgorell.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Gorell-Veterans-Legislation.pdf

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/mccain-wants-virginia-to-count-late-arriving-military-votes/

http://www.csg.org/pubs/capitolideas/2014_sept_oct/MilitaryVoters.aspx

http://knowledgecenter.csg.org/kc/content/making-military-and-overseas-citizens%E2%80%99-votes-count

 

It is a problem that has been going on for a long time. Mobile forces and all that. In recent times it can be argued that in very close elections the military vote could have made the difference. All hanging chads aside. The military vote has been conservative traditionally which makes it a very partisan issue. Note the first link is pending legislation. It is enough of an issue that laws are pending. Laws have been passed before. Some with more effect than others, but enough of them to confirm that it is an ongoing problem.

 

 

 

Gotta give megyn Kelly an iota of credit for retracting her bullshit Colorado voting fraud story from last week, but she still made up a scenario regarding union bosses stealing ballots.

 

People are still exited about this "No ID" thing. Which does make sense if no id is needed then who is voting?

 

Take this story for instance:

 

 

La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

The pro-amnesty Hispanic activist organization the National Council of La Raza helpfully promoted a Washington Post article explaining which states people can vote in without having to use a photo ID.

 

“Voter ID laws are at-issue across the country, with newly Republican-controlled legislatures having passed them in numerous states after the 2010 election,” explained The Washington Post’s Aaron Blake. “Most states still request some form of ID, but don’t require it. Another 20 states don’t require identification. In case you’re wondering where your state is at in all of this, a helpful (sic) graphic from the Post’s graphics team.”

 

So who ended up using the Post’s helpful graphic? The country’s foremost pro-amnesty Hispanic immigrant organization.

The Chicago chapter of Asian Americans Advancing Justice tweeted Blake’s article with the message, “Reminder — #Illinois does NOT require #voterID to cast a ballot,” along with the pro-Democrat hashtag #TurnOutForWhat. The tweet was helpfully retweeted by the National Council of La Raza.

 

The implication is to 'get out the vote' for people that don't have citizenship. It is a 'Hot Button' Issue. Not everybody believes we should let foreign citizens to vote in our elections. But how can you tell? And to also point out a line from a previous article;

Many of the task force ideas hail from Takoma Park, Md., where undocumented residents are permitted to vote in city elections.

 

So in the politically correct climate of the day does "undocumented residents" mean they don't have drivers licenses or they are foreign nationals?

 

 

So is this really a big deal?

Truth is, you will never know if it was a fair election or not.

[smccrory]

FWIW I'd like to comment SS for what I think is an exceedingly fair and balanced tone and an understanding the the issue is complex and partisan on both sides.

[Strictly Street]

There is more on both sides.

 

Published on Oct 30, 2014

A stunning undercover video exposes a reckless disregard of election law in North Carolina. Multiple campaign operatives and workers, both democrats and republicans, encourage felony voter fraud.

 

[magley64]

The megyn Kelly story was about anyone having the capability of printing ballots and voting from home. The truth is that only military members, and some other overseas citizens can do that in Colorado.

Edited October 30, 2014 by magley64

[Pokey]

I want to bang Megyn Kelly, that is all I want to contribute to this thread.

[Strictly Street]

I want to bang Megyn Kelly, that is all I want to contribute to this thread.

 

You might be onto something here....

 

[Strictly Street]

3 dead voters' absentee ballots to own home; FBI seizes ballots

 

From the article:

The Bernalillo County Clerk's office mailed absentee ballots to three dead voters, according to an Albuquerque man named Carlos Villanueva, who brought the ballots into the Secretary of State's Office Monday morning.

 

Villanueva said he suspected similar voter fraud was happening, so he tested the system himself.

 

He chose three random people from local obituaries, and wanted to see if it would be easy to request ballots under their names, even though the people were already dead.

 

Using nothing more than their names and birthdates, he was able to get the Bernalillo Co. Clerk's Office to mail the ballots to his own home address, not even the addresses belonging to the people who died.

 

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And why is this never detected?

 

The problem is that sort of data was and is still not available to the Bernalillo Co. Clerk's Office. Folks in the office there say the secretary of state last sent them an updated list of dead voters for September and not October, the month in which those two voters died.

 

As of this past Friday, there had been 64,000 requests for absentee ballots.

 

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And they can't be caught, ever, by anybody. Again, no id needed as they are absentee ballots.

 

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3608980.shtml?cat=500#.VFj-GJ_A3cl

 

So the question is whom are the dead guys voting for?

 

It is sure going to be a media circus!

[Casper]

Yeah, what America do you live in where they don't prosecute crimes?

Significantly more people already vote democratic now but lose out due to gerrymandering.

Just this week a politician in California was sentenced to 9yrs for a bunch of charges. Served one day and is out. Bankers. Insurance companies. BP. If you have money, you can damn near get away with anything. You just have to be rich or too big to fail. Then you get to cheat as much as you want.

As for more people voting democrat than republican, I would like to see those numbers. It swings with almost every election.

The masses continue down the two party path to self destruction. As soon as people wake up and realize both parties are a facade, the better.

[turnone]

Just this week a politician in California was sentenced to 9yrs for a bunch of charges. Served one day and is out. Bankers. Insurance companies. BP. If you have money, you can damn near get away with anything. You just have to be rich or too big to fail. Then you get to cheat as much as you want.

As for more people voting democrat than republican, I would like to see those numbers. It swings with almost every election.

The masses continue down the two party path to self destruction. As soon as people wake up and realize both parties are a facade, the better.

 

I was referring to regular folk, not corporations that act like 'people' unless it's better for them not to be.  Nor was I talking about the rich and influential.  Those types routinely get away with a lot.  This was the context of polling fraud and regular voters, but point taken.  We likely agree.

 

Same link I posted before:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2012

Although Democratic candidates received a nation-wide plurality of more than 1.4 million votes (1.2%) in all House elections,^[6] the Republican Party won a 33-seat advantage in the state-apportioned totals, thus retaining its House majority by 17 seats. This disparity -- common in close elections involving single-member district voting^[7] -- has on occasion been attributed togerrymandering in the congressional redistricting process following the 2010 United States Census,^[8][9][10] although such claims have been disputed.^[11][12]

In the previous century, on four occasions the party with a plurality of the popular vote was unable to receive a majority in the House, but only twice since World War II.^[10] The last time was in 1952and 1996, in which the GOP held a majority in the House. The 1942 election was last time that the Democrats held a majority in the House without winning the popular vote.^[13]

[Casper]

I was referring to regular folk, not corporations that act like 'people' unless it's better for them not to be. Nor was I talking about the rich and influential. Those types routinely get away with a lot. This was the context of polling fraud and regular voters, but point taken. We likely agree.

Same link I posted before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2012

Although Democratic candidates received a nation-wide plurality of more than 1.4 million votes (1.2%) in all House elections,^[6] the Republican Party won a 33-seat advantage in the state-apportioned totals, thus retaining its House majority by 17 seats. This disparity -- common in close elections involving single-member district voting^[7] -- has on occasion been attributed togerrymandering in the congressional redistricting process following the 2010 United States Census,^[8][9][10] although such claims have been disputed.^[11][12]

In the previous century, on four occasions the party with a plurality of the popular vote was unable to receive a majority in the House, but only twice since World War II.^[10] The last time was in 1952and 1996, in which the GOP held a majority in the House. The 1942 election was last time that the Democrats held a majority in the House without winning the popular vote.^[13]

So it's only happened four times in the past 100 years (1942, 1952, 1996, 2012)? Seems this is about as big of a problem as voter fraud.

[turnone]

So it's only happened four times in the past 100 years (1942, 1952, 1996, 2012)? Seems this is about as big of a problem as voter fraud.

Twice in the last twenty is more relevant. Could become even more so. We shall see what today's and more likely 2016 elections show.

[Strictly Street]

Twice in the last twenty is more relevant. Could become even more so. We shall see what today's and more likely 2016 elections show.

 

Hanging chads anyone?

 

Lets see how the theater plays out.

 

Everybody loves a good show.