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Inherited a few new guns this weekend, curious how you go about getting them appraised?

 

2 police issue 38 specials, same gun, just 2 of them, in great shape.  Look to be older think he said like early to mid 1900's.

 

1 US issue Riot Gun, don't see any other markings, just the "US" stamped on it, short barrel 12g. 

 

1 Ithaca 12g with both barrels

 

1 Winchester 22 semi auto

 

1 rough 22 pistol, wouldn't fire it, but may see if getting it restored would be worth it.

 

They are technically our kids, from my FIL but for the time being they are ours. 

 

Just curious of value's, would never consider selling them as they have been in the family for years.   Thanks. 

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I check approximate value by searching on www.gunsamerica.com, or just call your insurance agent to see if you need an additional rider on your home owners.  They should have a list of higher value guns(but I'm in Texas, so it may just be a Texas thing).

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holy crap. Be very cautious about moving a US marked military shotgun. Some of those are very valued and very hard to find. Look closer. There should be a manufacturer marking somewhere.

 

Edit: I use Gun Blue Book for pricing. Just be honest about the condition. At some point it doesn't matter whether or not an old firearm actually works.

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holy crap. Be very cautious about moving a US marked military shotgun. Some of those are very valued and very hard to find. Look closer. There should be a manufacturer marking somewhere.

 

Edit: I use Gun Blue Book for pricing. Just be honest about the condition. At some point it doesn't matter whether or not an old firearm actually works.

Yeah, there isn't.  I looked it over hardcore last night.  I DID find some serial numbers, all matching, but couldn't find ANYTHING on a maker.  I will check again tonight.

 

So you're saying I probably need to get that one checked out pretty close then.  It's in pristine condition too, definitely 100% original and was told it functions.

 

Does that mean I can't use it for HD in the basement safe?  Cuz that was going to be our SHTF and we're in the basement shotty.  Man that means I HAVE to buy another gun.

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Likely one of these

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_individual_weapons_of_the_U.S._Armed_Forces#Shotguns

US Military Shotguns - Out of service/Canceled[edit]
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A decent HD short barrel shotgun shouldn't cost more than 250-300. Saw a 5 shot Stevens on discount last week.

 

edit: Does the shotgun have a bayonet lug. Is it parkerized or blued.

 

As a "for instance". A WWI Remington model 10 trench gun is worth 12,500 to 14,000.

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Most military shotguns had the flaming bomb ordnance marking with the US marking. Or a "P" marking. Very few shotguns had only the US marking. Where is the marking located. Where is the serial number located. And if possible, how long is the barrel.

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Yeah trust me, I don't care about buying a new g*n, especially a 200 12gauge like I already have lol.

 

No bayonet lug, and I didn't get to look too hard last night.  Safe arrives today so when I move them into that I will try to get more info and a serial number.

 

If this thing is worth that kinda cash or anything close I need to let my FIL know right away because his wife just went through a double breast removal, is currently in chemo and radiation both and only the 4th case of whatever breast cancer she has in the whole world.  Something about how aggressive and location, don't know much about it, but she went from 185lbs to 95lbs in less than 60 days, kinda creepy.

 

Thanks guys, I will definitely get more info tonight when I move them.  Someone sent me a text with a blue book and said to just get him info and he'll look them up, OR Rocks!!

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Blue book is nice I guess but, just like cars, it's never accurate. Anything is only worth what someone will pay. That being said, what Dale and I do as well as most any other FFL that buys guns does is look each up on Armslist, Gunbroker and one other local site of your choosing, which ever site is appropriate to the gun. Then average the 3 prices.

Armslist gets you the going asking price, Gunbroker gets you the final selling price. Gets you real prices that people are actually paying, not what a book suggests one might pay.

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Apparently you've never been to a gun show before I guess. :) I don't think I've ever walked through a show with something I wanted to trade or sell without someone pulling out a BBoGV.  Now, you're right about market driving the prices but again it doesn't appear you've ever held one of these books and thumbed through it.  The prices are updated in each edition so every release is current with the market.  Good luck also finding the exact gun you're looking up information on in the exact same condition.  They don't call it the gun bible for nothing.

 

The thing is...the BBoGV has just about every gun ever made in it.  Good luck finding something rare for sale on one of those sites when you want to get a rough price for one.  Any resource is a good resource...online, books, etc.  I just prefer to go to one book for everything instead of 3 online sites.

 

Just sayin'. :D

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yeah, the Blue Book is more for identifying. And a first rough estimate. At least for me. Even then, I've seen many firearms that aren't in Blue Book. Either a distinct variation, custom factory work, or something foreign that never made it to the USA. (Military personnel are known for bringing back all sorts of strange stuff.)

 

Don't get too excited about real high values. Chances are the shottie is in the 400-800 range. Maybe a notch higher. Unless it turns out to be something of limited numbers or great demand. But you never know...

 

edit: lack of a bayonet lug takes it down lower right away. And blued instead of parkerized probably further. There were a lot of shotgun contracts. I'm leaning toward some sort of WWII surplus.

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