John Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 my ex500 has this on it. basically if you are at a dead stop, you can only shift into first or neutral.so my question is, do all kawis come with this? kawikid, ninja nick, satan, mr bret... do your bikes have this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playerpro153 Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 I know the 2003 636 has that feature. It may be across all the kawi sport bikes. My old vulcan never had that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harb67 Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 My 07 650 has it. I like the feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 They all might have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 mine does here. i am pretty sure most have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan_Rider Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 cruisers have it too, at least my vulcan does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyone Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 i wouldn't like my bike to have that since i changed the sprockets and now often start in 2nd gear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Why would you want this? So you cant put ur bike in second gear with it off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 i think its to be able to make sure when you put it in neutral its really there when you let the clutch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benyen Soljax Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 from what i remember, my 250 was always funny at a dead stop. if i forgot to shift down while rolling, i always had trouble getting down through the gears back to 1st. im pretty sure i couldnt shift back up once i got there either, at a stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 i wouldn't like my bike to have that since i changed the sprockets and now often start in 2nd gear...Why did you change them if you avoid using that set-up with normal gear selection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 from what i remember, my 250 was always funny at a dead stop. if i forgot to shift down while rolling, i always had trouble getting down through the gears back to 1st. im pretty sure i couldnt shift back up once i got there either, at a stop.Yeah, they're all like that. If that happens, in order for me to go down another gear I release the clutch until it grabs and then pull it back in to downshift to the next gear. I try to avoid forgetting to downshift though, but sometimes you just get caught sleeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 ditto what nick said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyone Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Why did you change them if you avoid using that set-up with normal gear selection?because i wanted the better acceleration of the other 5 gears and i can start from first but i have to change gears very quickly to second... so i start in second and don't have to worry about it.. mostly because at mid ohio i was in too high rpm coming through the key hole (for anyone that knows it) and wanted to be able to take it in 3rd instead of 2nd..also i did a 520 conversion and figured why not. on a side note i went down one in the front and it made a big difference and would recommend a 520 conversion and either one down on the front or 2 up in the back to everyone.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 because i wanted the better acceleration of the other 5 gears and i can start from first but i have to change gears very quickly to second... so i start in second and don't have to worry about it.. mostly because at mid ohio i was in too high rpm coming through the key hole (for anyone that knows it) and wanted to be able to take it in 3rd instead of 2nd..also i did a 520 conversion and figured why not. on a side note i went down one in the front and it made a big difference and would recommend a 520 conversion and either one down on the front or 2 up in the back to everyone..Oh. Yeah I've experienced the keyhole so I know what it is. Having to shift while leaned over is a bitch, so I know what you mean with proper gear selection. I love low end torque so I can have low rpm's with lots of power and still have tons of rpm room to push me through the turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadyone Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Oh. Yeah I've experienced the keyhole so I know what it is. Having to shift while leaned over is a bitch, so I know what you mean with proper gear selection. I love low end torque so I can have low rpm's with lots of power and still have tons of rpm room to push me through the turn.yea 600 and low end torque don't go together..edit.. thoughi also have a quickshifter so its not that big a problem but bg enough that i think the gear change will help a lot haven't been back since i did it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorvictor Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Let me get this straight? It prevents you from upshifting into anything above first gear when you arent moving. Seems like there wouldnt be a need for such a thing. At least ive never run into that problem, but I may be a minority? Whats the situation where it would cause a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 so you dont have to "feel around" for neutral once youve come to a stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorvictor Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 so you dont have to "feel around" for neutral once youve come to a stop.I see your point but I dont put the trans in neutral until im going to get off of the bike so this problem only occurs once a trip and unlike me if you have a neutral lite you cant miss neutral for second, sooo, ok, Sound like extra bs for such a small problem but I may be in the minority like I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 makes it no hassle when i pull up to a stop light to light my cig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Apparently Kawi riders have a problem finding neutral or first. It's an odd worthless little feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 makes it no hassle when i pull up to a stop light to light my cig. I cry everytime I see a HD guy or his rider smoking while riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I see your point but I dont put the trans in neutral until im going to get off of the bike so this problem only occurs once a trip and unlike me if you have a neutral lite you cant miss neutral for second, sooo, ok, Sound like extra bs for such a small problem but I may be in the minority like I said.i got a neutral light, but its still pretty sensitve to shifting into second. for some reason its easier to catch neutral coming from 2 - 1 than going up from 1. on my bike if youre rolling in first and tap the shifter, 90% of the time its gonna skip neutral and go straight into second.i dont think they charge more for it so w/e:banana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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