OGRE Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 http://www.watleyreview.com/2004/052504-3.html Volume 2, Issue 21, May 25, 2004 DNA Study Finds Chihuahuas Aren't Dogs As part of an ambitious effort to identify genes that cause disease in dogs and humans, scientists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle analyzed DNA collected from 414 dogs representing 85 breeds, including some of the most popular. The findings have sent reverberations though the ranks of dog fanciers, who primp and preen their beloved companions for shows and take great pride in their pedigrees. "It was a surprise to find that some breeds such as the Ibizan hound and the Pharaoh hound, along with several others that dog aficionados have long believed dated back thousands of years, are actually much more modern animals – re-creations that were probably produced by breeders," said geneticist Leonid Kruglyak, who helped conduct the research. "However, it was more of a surprise to find that some breeds are not even dogs." Among other findings, the analysis determined that the Chihuahua is actually a type of large rodent, selectively bred for centuries to resemble a canine. "This is clearly going to raise some eyebrows in the Chihuahua world," said Peggy Wilson, president of the Chihuahua Club of America. "It goes against our belief system. People are pretty passionate about their dogs. There is going to be disbelief." Using 96 distinct patterns in the genes called "microsatellites," the researchers compared dogs within breeds, and breeds with one another. In the May 21 issue of the journal Science, the team concluded that almost every breed was surprisingly distinct genetically. They were able to identify each dog's breed by its genes with 99 percent accuracy. They also found that breeds could be clearly grouped into four distinct clusters based on striking genetic similarities: ancient dogs, hunters, herders, and guard dogs. "Once we had these groups pretty well mapped out, the canine mimics were easy to pick out," added Kruglyak. "And actually, it was kind of intuitive in hindsight." The study found that several diminutive breeds had been independently created around the world from a variety of other animals, including the Lhasa apso (Tibetan snow rabbit), Pekingese (Chinese water rat), Shih Tzu (stoat), and Yorkshire Terrier (pigeon). "Most of these do contain some actual dog genes," admitted Kruglyak, "but the percentage is no higher than ten percent in each case." Officials at the American Kennel Club and the AKC Canine Health Foundation praised the work in spite of the controversial findings, saying it will help breeders, veterinarians and scientists eliminate dog diseases. "This really is revolutionary in terms of increasing the number of tools available to breeders," the AKC's Patti Strand said. "It really will have a tremendous effect on improving the health of dogs. However, it does require us to rethink our mission and reevaluate whether it is appropriate to continue numbering breeds such as Chihuahuas and Yorkies with the real dogs." The potential ramifications of these findings are significant as condominiums and rentals around the nation which prohibit exotic animals anxiously await news as to whether scientists will be officially reclassifying these breeds as other animals. "Oh, heavens, if they make it official that Chihuahuas aren't dogs, it would make my day," said Miami condominium owner Frances LaCroix. "I would finally have grounds to make Elsie Tabernathy get rid of her wretched little yapping pack of – rodents, did you say they were? Oh, that would be marvelous." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 thats great I knew those little fuckers wern't dogs. [ 27. May 2004, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: Dave Sigman ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Originally posted by 691: thats great I knew those little fuckers wern't dogs. Amen. http://www.dogcollector.com/hevener/images/hevenerpaintings/chihuahua.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wease Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I think it's a joke. I used Google News and found similar articles, but nothing about Chihuahuas. Anybody confirm that it's a joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old dirty bastard Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 That means people are buying $800 rodents Wow the petstores are getting over selling high class rats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wease Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Yes, it's fake. That is a parody site. Too good to be true, a Chihuahua being a rat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 bah..... Its on the internet it has to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest relvinnian Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Humans share 99% percent of our DNA with chimpanzees, our closest modern relative, and around 97% with the rest of the mammilian family. Look at the FDA's pre-human drug selection. Rigorous testing in animals must be undergone before the first healthy human is given a dose. LD-50s (50% of a standard lethal dose), can be strongly correlated across species. We breed mice that have muscular impairments or strong alcohol abuse potentials for the sole purpose of testing novel chemical compounds on what current research has called an a mammal analogue to a particular affliction. Or perhaps just a bit of useful information because our muscles use the same bio-chemical communications systems, or the brains of a higher percentage of substance abusers may have a lack of density at one site, or a neurotransmitter insufficiency. There are animal models of depression and anxiety. Species are compiled by humans and given arbitrary (in terms of genetics and evolutionary theory) names, because we must have categories to understand things. We say that an animals looks, or behaves a certain way, is adapted to a certain environment, shares certain physical or behavioral characteristics. To sum it all up: A chihuahua is a dog, because WE CALL IT ONE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted May 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Originally posted by relvinnian: Humans share 99% percent of our DNA with chimpanzees, our closest modern relative, and around 97% with the rest of the mammilian family. Look at the FDA's pre-human drug selection. Rigorous testing in animals must be undergone before the first healthy human is given a dose. LD-50s (50% of a standard lethal dose), can be strongly correlated across species. We breed mice that have muscular impairments or strong alcohol abuse potentials for the sole purpose of testing novel chemical compounds on what current research has called an a mammal analogue to a particular affliction. Or perhaps just a bit of useful information because our muscles use the same bio-chemical communications systems, or the brains of a higher percentage of substance abusers may have a lack of density at one site, or a neurotransmitter insufficiency. There are animal models of depression and anxiety. Species are compiled by humans and given arbitrary (in terms of genetics and evolutionary theory) names, because we must have categories to understand things. We say that an animals looks, or behaves a certain way, is adapted to a certain environment, shares certain physical or behavioral characteristics. To sum it all up: A chihuahua is a dog, because WE CALL IT ONE. It was a joke, too much thought, your giving me a headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I figured it was a joke when they said a yorkshire terrior was a pigeon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraGlue Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Originally posted by relvinnian: Damn, look who popped back up! Where you been? <font size=1>John Kerry would not have noticed your absence.</font> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevil Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Originally posted by AustinL911: I figured it was a joke when they said a yorkshire terrior was a pigeon....+1 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lustalbert Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 LMFAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Originally posted by WWJKD?: Damn, look who popped back up! Where you been? I was wondering the same thing. <font size=1>John Kerry would have realized this shit is annoying and quit it a long time ago.</font> And oh how I was this thread was true. Even though I do agree it is whatever we say it is, perception is reality after all because if perception isn't reality then how do we know what we perceive is real? It would still be great to be able to harass overzealous Chihuahua owners about owning rats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest relvinnian Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Originally posted by WWJKD?: Damn, look who popped back up! Where you been? <font size=1>John Kerry would not have noticed your absence.</font> I live in Cleveland now. Just been working and going to school. I no longer own a vehicle so there is not much reason for me to post anymore. I have a pathetically dry sense of humor which cannot be conveyed well through typing, so I only post on subjects were I can learn or convey knowledge. My nerdiness is not so apparent in person... or so I'm TOLD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonneVille Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 I don't think they're rats, they gotta be some kinda alien spies or something, the nasty little fuckers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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