Mowgli1647545497 Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Not over the security council seat bid, but over the whole whitewashing of history thing. Chinese Rampage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Maybe Japan shouldn't have tried to invade and hold China so many times. Just a thought, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Cliff's notes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Originally posted by The DropTop: Cliff's notes?Learn to read. People basing judgements on cliff notes are the reason no one knows shit anymore, and subsequently elects idiots based on campaigning and not pertinent issues. Chinese protestors riot to appose Japan UN seat. Chinese police do nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Originally posted by Tenzig: Learn to read. People basing judgements on cliff notes are the reason no one knows shit anymore, and subsequently elects idiots based on campaigning and not pertinent issues. Chinese protestors riot to appose Japan UN seat. Chinese police do nothingI can read, and read quite well. I just choose not to read past the 2nd paragraph at this time of night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crankshaft Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Originally posted by Tenzig: Learn to read. People basing judgements on cliff notes are the reason no one knows shit anymore, and subsequently elects idiots based on campaigning and not pertinent issues. Chinese protestors riot to appose Japan UN seat. Chinese police do nothing <font color ="midnightblue"> That's a bit extreme, though I do agree that elections should be based on 'pertinent issues' rather than campaign slogans. This might create a problem for Kerry, however, for were his poignant proposals translated into cliff's notes, they might encompass all of a few, tedious paragraphs. But that's aside from the point. The real point is the Chinese have every right to be pissed off. Japan is blatantly disregarding attrocities committed by them during the war (most specifically, the Rape of Nanjing), even going as far as publishing history books for students that gloss over that part of history. Imagine if Germany's official stance was that it never tortured any Jews, and I reckon you'll also imagine quite a few disgruntled Jews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martindc1 Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Originally posted by Mowgli: Not over the security council seat bid, but over the whole whitewashing of history thing.+1. I have had an idea for quite sometime that there has been some whitewashing of history particularly of WWII. I can't quite put my finger on it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli1647545497 Posted April 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Here's the "modern" History book version of WWII. Abridged. Hitler killed alot of jews for no reason. Doesn't get away with it. America drops atomic bombs on Japan for no reason. Gets away with it. *<font -1>Everything else is just "detail" to be ignored. Clouds conclusion.</font> Conclusion: WWII, 50% for bad guys getting their come-upance. **But someday evil America will fall too. The End. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Originally posted by Folkvang: That's a bit extreme.Indeed it was, but those posts get on my nerves a bit. It's basiclay saying "You read it for me, because for whatever reason, I'm not able to read and comprehend it." Besides, jason knows I love'm. tongue.gif As for whitewashing history, don't think it only happens elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 yeah there's plenty of that done here in america, the white washing that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 the chinese need to hear the saying, don't throw stones while living in glass houses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 can anyone tell me why we learn so much about german concentration camps during wwII in high school, but almost nothing about the over 50 million chinese that suffered the same, if not a worse fate during the same time period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crankshaft Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Originally posted by Mowgli: Here's the "modern" History book version of WWII. Abridged. Hitler killed alot of jews for no reason. Doesn't get away with it. America drops atomic bombs on Japan for no reason. Gets away with it. *<font -1>Everything else is just "detail" to be ignored. Clouds conclusion.</font> Conclusion: WWII, 50% for bad guys getting their come-upance. **But someday evil America will fall too. The End. <font color ="midnightblue"> I assume -no, HOPE - you're demonstrating the text from a history book contrived of fallacies? Originally posted by Orion: can anyone tell me why we learn so much about german concentration camps during wwII in high school, but almost nothing about the over 50 million chinese that suffered the same, if not a worse fate during the same time period? <font color ="midnightblue"> Yes, for a similar reason you hear almost nothing about the attrocities committed by Stalin during the war; You learn about the Nazi's over the Chinese events because, for the modern liberal and socialist, it perfectly demonstrates how horrible 'whites' can be, and how we are the scum of the earth, thereby supporting their agendas in raising minorities rights over those of whites. This is why you've probably heard of the murder of James Byrd, yet you've almost certainly never heard of the murder of Jake Robel, who died exactly the same way, just races switched around; why you've never heard of the horrific murders of Aaron Sander, Heather Muller, Bradley Herman, or Jason Befort, and why, when the UCLA was awarded two million dollars to write up a history book in 1997, their book came out as such: - There was no mention of Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, or the Wright Brothers - There were seventeen references to the KKK and nine references to Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy - Harriet Tubman was referenced six times, while Robert E. Lee was ignored - Instructions for teaching students about the traitor Alger Hiss and executed Soviet spies Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, who gave the atom bomb secrets to Stalin, urged "leeway for teachers to teach it either way." - The Constitutional Convention was never mentioned. - The presidency of George Washington was unmentioned, as was his Farewell Address. Instead, students were "invited to construct a dialogue between and Indian Leader and George Washington at the end of the Revolutionary War." - Students were instructed to "analyze the achievements of and grandeur of Mansa Musa's court, and the social customs and wealth of the kingdom of Malie," and to study Aztec "skills, labor system, and architecture." No mention was made of the quaint Aztec custom of daily human sacrifice. And the reason you don't hear about Stalin is, of course, because he was a Communist; and, as we all know, that is the eventual goal of the libs (they're socialist as it is, they just don't call it that) so they can't afford to have a bad picture of it painted. Understand? [ 17. April 2005, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: Folkvang ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 well, that was extremely well thought out and complete. kudos to an excellent response. anyone wanna give me a right answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crankshaft Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 <font color ="midnightblue"> That's as 'right' as its gonna get. Why do you think it isn't true? Because it's so drastic? So different from everything you've ever been told? I'm curious why this doesn't seem plausible, especially in light of the evidence I've provided to support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 dont flatter yourself, its not the first time ive heard your theory. and, as intriguing as it is, the real reason is much simpler. please, no one is calling you stupid. i was impressed, really. i think your answer has merit. your shortchanging "time", though. this hasnt been taught about or even been a subject for over 50 years. its not some recent "tidying up" of our history books thats created the ignorance regarding the "forgotten holocaust". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Originally posted by Orion: dont flatter yourself, its not the first time ive heard your theory. and, as intriguing as it is, the real reason is much simpler. please, no one is calling you stupid. i was impressed, really. I think your answer has merit. your shortchanging "time", though. this hasnt been taught about or even been a subject for over 50 years. its not some recent "tidying up" of our history books thats created the ignorance regarding the "forgotten holocaust".agreed. Besides, Liberals cant push any agenda, they can't organize. Communism is no one's contemporary goal (no one who's considered anyone), though socialism is appealing to some....some hippies. It'd work if it didn't involve human beings, Robot society would love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Originally posted by Ricochet: He makes good beer No, he made horrible beer. If he made good beer, he would not have become a revolutionary. Someone else makes the beer you like, and named it after someone who made awful beer, but raised hell with the Brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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