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I hate to say anything good about Mac, but they do have some good hardware. Being able to run Linux is about the only way I would use a Mac though.

 

 

I think you may have just said the most retarded comment about Macs I've ever heard.

 

http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/

 

 

Linux is the underlying operating system.

Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD.

KDE is not an operating system.

KDE is not Linux.

KDE is a desktop environment.

Darwin is Linux.

Mac OS X uses Darwin and Aqua.

Aqua is a desktop environment.

 

So...

 

What you see in the screenshot is a Mac running KDE as the desktop environment instead of Aqua. The operating system is still Darwin. Darwin is opensource. KDE is opensource.

 

So, saying the only way you'd use a Mac is if it were running Linux is retarded. Mac OS X is a Linux based operating system.

 

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Darwin is not Linux. Darwin is basically three pieces, "Mach", "BSD", and "IOKit". IOKit is the device driver support component of Darwin; BSD is the primary "OS"; and Mach is used to provide memory management, process/task/thread support, and messaging. The BSD portion is based on FreeBSD which has nothing to do with Linux.

 

Linux is a kernel as well and only a kernel. Red Hat, Suse, Slackware etc are all collections of tools and software which comprise an OS built around the Linux kernel.

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Darwin is not Linux. Darwin is basically three pieces, "Mach", "BSD", and "IOKit". IOKit is the device driver support component of Darwin; BSD is the primary "OS"; and Mach is used to provide memory management, process/task/thread support, and messaging. The BSD portion is based on FreeBSD which has nothing to do with Linux.

 

Linux is a kernel as well and only a kernel. Red Hat, Suse, Slackware etc are all collections of tools and software which comprise an OS built around the Linux kernel.

 

 

 

http://www.freebsd.org/

 

 

"It is derived from BSD, the version of UNIX® developed at the University of California, Berkeley."

 

 

linux

n : an open-source version of the UNIX operating system

 

 

So, FreeBSD has nothing to do with Linux?

 

Is Apple and the entire opensource community lying?

 

http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/darwin/

 

I realize Darwin isn't technically Linux. The BSD guys get really pissy when you call BSD Linux (you must be a BSD guy ;) ). But by the definition, Linux is an open-source version of UNIX. Darwin is open-source. Darwin is based on FreeBSD. FreeBSD is a UNIX based OS, often called UNIX (UNIX being used as a general term). So... I think you can figure it out. Its easier to call Darwin Linux.

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I think you may have just said the most retarded comment about Macs I've ever heard.

 

http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/

 

 

Linux is the underlying operating system.

Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD.

KDE is not an operating system.

KDE is not Linux.

KDE is a desktop environment.

Darwin is Linux.

Mac OS X uses Darwin and Aqua.

Aqua is a desktop environment.

 

So...

 

What you see in the screenshot is a Mac running KDE as the desktop environment instead of Aqua. The operating system is still Darwin. Darwin is opensource. KDE is opensource.

 

So, saying the only way you'd use a Mac is if it were running Linux is retarded. Mac OS X is a Linux based operating system.

 

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FreeBSD is not based on linux. The two have binary compatibility, but they don't use the same kernel.

 

Further Linux is not based on the AT&T code.

 

So no - Linux is not FreeBSD and FreeBSD is not Linux. They do not even share a common ancestor although they function similarly.

 

One can write an OS that looks like another OS, yet not use the original OS code.

 

Links for your reading pleasure:

Linux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

FreeBSD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD

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Calling Darwin Linux is really doing it a disservice. Just because FreeBSD is a UNIX clone and Linux is a UNIX clone doesn't mean they're anything alike. I understand the reasoning there, but its just a bad comparision because OS X internally really has nothing to 'directly' do with the Linux kernel. I used to run BSD on everything btw, but not anymore. My main workstation runs OS X at home, and Solaris at work.
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