Help identify this gun

[Casper]

Anybody know what this is????

 

http://a612.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/35/l_c6cd6f27bce97faa085dad86d3e42a03.jpg

 

http://a802.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/65/l_029b4a248e73649bc6e17d32c845eab9.jpg

 

http://a770.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/94/l_a2265986a85504a3e2ee7a9445563901.jpg

 

http://a422.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/6/l_c67781c14d9a7c76836ce726d9c19c5d.jpg

 

The only marking on it anywhere is the number 34. Sorry for the shitty pics. Used my phone.

[old dirty bastard]

Thats Old Dirty Bastard the gun version

[AngryBMW]

Check your myspace....

 

I would say it's a WWI or WWII era Mauser. Dave would be more helpful though. Who did you get it from?

-Marc

[Casper]

Check your myspace....

 

I would say it's a WWI or WWII era Mauser. Dave would be more helpful though. Who did you get it from?

-Marc

Check your MySpace cracka.

[twistedfocus1647545489]

Hard to say from the pics, but at first glance I was also thinking early Mauser. I'm not sure about the #34. I think they did a model 34 but I thought it was a pistol. I'm not really up on the older stuff though.

 

So in short, I have nothing to add except I would have guessed Mauser also.

[copperhead]

If it's military it will probably be on here:

 

http://www.surplusrifle.com/

 

Sorry I can't be of any more help. If it's a Mauser, I don't think it's a K98. I've got two M48's which only differ from the K98's in length, and it doesn't look like that at all. That design looks pre-1900, even the Russian Mosins look more modern than that.

[HAOLE]

Does not look like a Mauser to me. Look at the trigger and the trigger guard, they look very rudimentary. The Germans would not design some thing like like. I would make two guesses, it is Japanese or Russian. Both countries were producing rudimentary firearms during WWII toward the end.

 

All Mausers that I have seen, not matter what country they are from (except German) will have other marking on the top of the receiver. Most of the time you will find them with a crest of some sort. The German models will have a swastika stamped on them somewhere. You will often fine the Waffen SS lightning bolt on those also. In addition they will also have 98 stamped on the receiver somewhere.

 

Some of the German WWII will have letters stamped on the receiver denoting where they were produced. ie. concentration camps

http://burnfan0.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/k98_6.jpg.w560h328.jpg

 

Look on the reciver and bolt for a chrysanthemum. it will look like this:

http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/pictures/japanese/mum.gif

If you see that then it is Jap WWII.

 

Of course, if it is a WWI Mauser, what I said above will not apply. Here is a pic of a WWI mauser.http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~worldwarone/WWI/Weapons/images/rifles-page95-sm.jpg

[BloodRed]

I agree with the others, deffinitly looks like a military grade gun. WWI or earlier.

[Scotty2Hotty]

I'd say Lee Enfield, but it could be a Springfield 03 knockoff. You know what caliber it is?

[HAOLE]

I'd say Lee Enfield, but it could be a Springfield 03 knockoff. You know what caliber it is?

Not an Enfield. They have a magazine that extends past the stock.

[Scotty2Hotty]

They have a magazine that extends past the stock.

Huh?

[Casper]

I have a 7.62x39 round here. Whatever this gun takes, is just slightly narrower but much, much longer. Almost twice as long.

 

Rick- the shape at the end of the bolt looks very similar to the picture you posted:

http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/pictures/japanese/mum.gif

 

If its Japanese, I think its older than WWII.

[Scotty2Hotty]

I'd honestly take it to a gunsmith before you load a round/shoot it. A good gunsmith can tell you caliber, make etc..

[twistedfocus1647545489]

I have a 7.62x39 round here. Whatever this gun takes, is just slightly narrower but much, much longer. Almost twice as long.

 

Rick- the shape at the end of the bolt looks very similar to the picture you posted:

http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/pictures/japanese/mum.gif

 

If its Japanese, I think its older than WWII.

 

Could be a 7.62x54R like the Mosin Nagant (similar rifle from the early 1900s). It's a good bit longer and uses a rimmed case.

[Casper]

I'd honestly take it to a gunsmith before you load a round/shoot it. A good gunsmith can tell you caliber, make etc..

 

I'm not loading shit in this thing. I pulled the bolt out and sat the round in. Looked. Pulled it out. Put the bolt back in. This thing is so old and aged I'd be afraid of something happening.

[Casper]

Okay, the end of the bolt does not look like that picture. I'll get a picture of what it does look like up hopefully.

[Casper]

Okay, finding more stuff. On the inside of the foreplate its marked:

7

50.

 

Found some other markings as well. All odd characters and the number 34. On the bolt the number 34 appears in 3 places. Two of the places have the lett Y and what looks like a crooked T above it. The top of the T slants upwards from the left.

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[92lx50]

I can't tell completely from the pictures, but I think it's a Japanese type 38 Arisaka like this one:

 

http://www.surplusrifle.com/arisakatype38/operations.asp

[Casper]

I can't tell completely from the pictures, but I think it's a Japanese type 38 Arisaka like this one:

 

http://www.surplusrifle.com/arisakatype38/operations.asp

 

That's VERY close.

 

I'll be damned, this gun has a safety just like that link says.

[92lx50]

If that's what it is (An Arisaka) then it's a WWII Japanese military rifle.

 

Most of those originally had the chrysanthimum seal of the japanese empire on the front of the receiver, but it was ground off when the Japanese surrendered.

 

It's either this caliber: http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?TabID=3&Categoryid=10463&categorystring=653***690***

 

Or this one:http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?TabID=3&Categoryid=10465&categorystring=653***690***

[Casper]

Its not the same though. Mine is much shorter, and has distinct differences.

[92lx50]

Is it this one maybe?

 

http://www.surplusrifle.com/arisaka/index.asp

[Casper]

Is it this one maybe?

 

http://www.surplusrifle.com/arisaka/index.asp

nope

[twistedfocus1647545489]

Ben,

I'd try poking around some of the military or antique sections on GunsAmerica (think Gun eBay). There's alot of photos you could use for refference.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/

[HAOLE]

I'm not loading shit in this thing. I pulled the bolt out and sat the round in. Looked. Pulled it out. Put the bolt back in. This thing is so old and aged I'd be afraid of something happening.

I agree!!!