TheBussman1647545507 Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 I know i waited too long but I need to sight my shotgun in tomorrow for deer season this weekend. Anyone know of any rifle ranges longer than the 75 feet at NASR or blackwing? I wanted to sight in at 150 yards. I wish I had land....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boost-n-Juice Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 West Jefferson - Big Darby Creek Shooting Range, 875 Middle Pike, West Jefferson, OH 43162. Phone: 614-879-0457 Facilities include: Outdoor Pistol (28-lanes/50yrds), Outdoor Rifle (4-lanes/300yrds), Rifle Silhouette, Pistol Silhouette, Muzzleloading Hours of Operation: m-s10-9/sun10-7 Range Access: Public Web Site: http://www.bigdarbycreeksr.com Email: pdenlinger@bigdarbycreeksr.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boost-n-Juice Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 150 yards! whoa! Try 50 to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBussman1647545507 Posted December 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 150 yards! whoa! Try 50 to start. yea, I'll start close in to get my scope on the paper but it would be nice to move out to 150 eventually. Thanks alot for the info though!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan9381 Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 i didnt know slugs were accurate at 150 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99crb600 Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 i didnt know slugs were accurate at 150 yards. sabot slugs with a rifled barrlel does wonders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 its a shot gun... how accurate does it have to be \ just throw a moddifid choke in it, and some #6 shot rounds, point and pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 its a shot gun... how accurate does it have to be \ just throw a moddifid choke in it, and some #6 shot rounds, point and pull. he is using slugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 its a shot gun... how accurate does it have to be \ just throw a moddifid choke in it, and some #6 shot rounds, point and pull. Shotshells and deer? Oh, and with today's slug gun technology, reaching out to 150+ yards, accurately, is not a problem at all. Hornady's SST Sabot's come with a drop chart on the box that goes up to 200yd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Sight in a shootgun? I wasn't aware you even needed to aim them. You can do this in your basement with the right measuring tools, never firing a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Sight in a shootgun? I wasn't aware you even needed to aim them. You can do this in your basement with the right measuring tools, never firing a shot. How do you plan to compensate for the slugs flight characteristics? Take it to a range and use a bench rest, for the most accurate results. Besides, sighting it in at a range is a good excuse to go shooting. Which is always fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ta Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 150yrds with a 12 gauge is gravy. esp through thick woods...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 How do you plan to compensate for the slugs flight characteristics? ummm math? If one slug flies differently than another, there's no point in sighting it in, you'll never be consistent. If you have your muzzel velocicty, you have enough to predict your arc. If you're doing the "gnats ass" of factoring in drag, you need more data but it's still not hard...you also have too much time on your hands AND your wasting it. Stand on the great salt lake and fire a slug perfectly perpendicular to gravity. It will take just as long to hit the ground as a slug dropped from the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBussman1647545507 Posted December 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 I'm using a mossburg 500 with a rifled barrel 20ga 3in, federal sabot slugs that cost $20 for 5. and i got a 9X scope. i'm going to the range soon i'll let you guys know what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Stand on the great salt lake and fire a slug perfectly perpendicular to gravity. It will take just as long to hit the ground as a slug dropped from the barrel. In a perfect world, yeah, but drag plays more of a role with a projectile going thousands of feet per second (edit:) especially when that projectile is a slug with more mass than a smaller caliber round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 In a perfect world, yeah, but drag plays more of a role with a projectile going thousands of feet per second (edit:) especially when that projectile is a slug with more mass than a smaller caliber round. Actually, having greater mass means that drag will have less of an effect. A slug will have little push on it from the air, but shot is another story all together. You have newtonian physics involved here. The drag force acting on the projected round is proportionally the same as the dropped round, it's a given percent of the velocity. i.e. still the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Blackwing only has a scatterboard from what I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 ummm math? Well, let's see an example of this math. Stand on the great salt lake and fire a slug perfectly perpendicular to gravity. It will take just as long to hit the ground as a slug dropped from the barrel. I know this, but, you're forgetting one thing; Bullets fired from a gun that is parallell to the ground will actually lift before arcing and coming back down. Do you know how much it's gonna lift? I'm sure there is math for this, but it's absolutely pointless to try and figure it out that way. Just go shoot the damn gun like it was designed for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 That all depends on humidity, air speed, and temperature as to how much a bullet will rise. Roughly 10 degrees = 1 full minute of angle or roughly close to 10 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Not to mention, how do you know your scope is spot on from the factory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelloman4571647545499 Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 All of a sudden I want to go shooting tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Bullets fired from a gun that is parallell to the ground will actually lift before arcing and coming back down. Do you know how much it's gonna lift? It is you that lifts the barrel. If you can make the recoil disappear, so will the lift. Air is a 3 dimensional force and a round is symmetrical. Any lift force will be balanced by an equal force in the other direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 It is you that lifts the barrel. If you can make the recoil disappear, so will the lift. Air is a 3 dimensional force and a round is symmetrical. Any lift force will be balanced by an equal force in the other direction. Ok, well since you can't make the recoil disappear, explain to me how 'math' is going to sight in the gun. Oh, and I have doubts as to whether recoil is the culprit of bullet rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 I was wrong on one thing; the bullet does not 'lift' , but it does rise due to parallax between the scope and barrel. The arcing is due to the angle of the barrel vs. the scope to hit whatever your zero is. i.e. You aim up to compensate for bullet drop over distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boost-n-Juice Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 lets facture in the curvature of the earth as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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