schmuckingham Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 They wont come out, i have tried everything by hand with no luck......... i suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudiOn19s Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 They wont come out, i have tried everything by hand with no luck......... i suck. you don't suck...it's soo time consuming to do correctly without a machine that it's nearly impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedrx7 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 rotary FTW... go figure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Automotive Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 If your doing it by hand, thats half your problem. The other half is depending on what your using "by hand" you may be putting more on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcz06 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autopia_2012_242156 Your new best friend. Also, if you’re using swirl removers from local auto stores, just do yourself a favor and throw them in the trash. All junk. Learned that the hard way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted August 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 i dont trust myself with any type of orbital or rotary buffers, and i dont want to fork out 200-400 bones to have someone else clean my shit......... its a conundrum damn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudiOn19s Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 You shouldn't fear the Orbital. you SHOULD fear the rotary. Orbitals are nearly dummy proof to where you almost have to try to screw up the paint to really do it with one of them. Most people are suprised at how long it still takes to correct paint with an orbital once they finally use one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted August 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 You shouldn't fear the Orbital. you SHOULD fear the rotary. Orbitals are nearly dummy proof to where you almost have to try to screw up the paint to really do it with one of them. Most people are suprised at how long it still takes to correct paint with an orbital once they finally use one. why fear the rotary and not the orbital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 why fear the rotary and not the orbital? Rotary can make paint disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted August 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Rotary can make paint disappear. got ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted August 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autopia_2012_242156 Your new best friend. Also, if you’re using swirl removers from local auto stores, just do yourself a favor and throw them in the trash. All junk. Learned that the hard way. Were should i get my swirl remover from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudiOn19s Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 why fear the rotary and not the orbital? Orbitals work strictly through mechanical action only and not through heat. 99% of the polishes on the market contain diminishing abrasives so the worst you can do with an orbital is overwork the polish and dry-buff the paint with your pad putting some marring back in the surface. Since the polish breaks down the longer you work it the less cut you have and instead of working with cut from a polish and foam pad you're left with just the foam pad. Rotaries build heat on top of the mechanical action. Because of this they work MUCH quicker to correct paint but if you continue to work with a rotary the surface will get warmer and warmer which is where you run into issues with burning through paint, etc. There's still a bit of a learning curve with an orbital but again, it's actually learning to get it to work effectively not necessarily learning how to not harm the paint with it. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmuckingham Posted August 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Orbitals work strictly through mechanical action only and not through heat. 99% of the polishes on the market contain diminishing abrasives so the worst you can do with an orbital is overwork the polish and dry-buff the paint with your pad putting some marring back in the surface. Since the polish breaks down the longer you work it the less cut you have and instead of working with cut from a polish and foam pad you're left with just the foam pad. Rotaries build heat on top of the mechanical action. Because of this they work MUCH quicker to correct paint but if you continue to work with a rotary the surface will get warmer and warmer which is where you run into issues with burning through paint, etc. There's still a bit of a learning curve with an orbital but again, it's actually learning to get it to work effectively not necessarily learning how to not harm the paint with it. Andy Yea apparently i dont know as much as i thought about detailing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maro Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Were should i get my swirl remover from? I use autogeek.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vander Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 I use autogeek.net Excellent site! But which company and product do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R. Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 If you don't want to order online you can go to Lowe's or Home Depot to get a Porter Cable orbital or order online. The Ultimate Detailing Machine is pretty good too I heard, a step up from the PC everyone used previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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