Scotty2Hotty Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) It wasn't cancelled, the funding was cut. Welcome in Clinton military cuts version 2.0. Edited July 24, 2009 by Infidel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I was at WPAFB yesterday and F-15s were all over the sky having fun....It was awesome!! If it was Wright Patt, it was probably F-16s. They've been hauling ass all day long over Cville. Lucky bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 It wasn't cancelled, the funding was cut. Welcome in Clinton military cuts version 2.0. SecDef Gates wanted the cuts. He was a Bush appointee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 It will look cheaper because the program likely uses some stuff from other programs mainly the F-22. They'll just roll it into the F-35 program on the books and it will look like a much better deal. You are correct... Not to mention the F-35 is slated for multiple branches. That means a larger order and more funding required for the complete program. Money will be saved however, things like making a VTOL model for the Marines will add a LOT of extra cost.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 F-22 + Thrust vectoring = Air superiority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 It will look cheaper because the program likely uses some stuff from other programs mainly the F-22. They'll just roll it into the F-35 program on the books and it will look like a much better deal. The skin on the F-22 was extremely expensive to maintain... $44,000/hr to run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSS Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 F-22 + Thrust vectoring = Air superiority. agreed :nod: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicedH22 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 like said, they are not 'cancelling' the F-22, they just arent going to build any additional aircraft, they think the cheaper F35 is the way to go. The F22 advocates are now going to push to buy more spare parts for F-22s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSS Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 so when the F-22 is gone, what's our answer to the Russian's stealth fighter? this is suppose to be far better than the Raptor http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/cwash77/20080507200131T-50.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicedH22 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 so when the F-22 is gone, what's our answer to the Russian's stealth fighter? a giant laser from space. i bet you think i am kidding. BTW, F35 is stealth, so is F22 but in reality, it doesnt matter much, dog fighting is pretty much a thing of the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 so when the F-22 is gone, what's our answer to the Russian's stealth fighter? this is suppose to be far better than the Raptor It's Russian. It'll fall apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 If it was Wright Patt, it was probably F-16s. They've been hauling ass all day long over Cville. Lucky bastards. Ya...they were one after the other..just climbing at a high rate of speed and messing around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 a giant laser from space. i bet you think i am kidding. BTW, F35 is stealth, so is F22 but in reality, it doesnt matter much, dog fighting is pretty much a thing of the past. Not sure the Star Wars project will ever get up and running. Wish Reagan would've pulled the trigger and done the program anyways. Here's the airborne version: http://samizdata.net/~pdeh/20020720-AirborneLaser-747_sml.jpg It was mostly just for ballistic missile defense though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSS Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) Not sure the Star Wars project will ever get up and running. Wish Reagan would've pulled the trigger and done the program anyways. Here's the airborne version: http://samizdata.net/~pdeh/20020720-AirborneLaser-747_sml.jpg It was mostly just for ballistic missile defense though. I thought I heard that program was cancelled too? but the history channel had a show on about that plane and what it was designed to do Edited July 24, 2009 by SinisterSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicedH22 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Not talking about the star wars project, but close enough. but yes, mostly for ballistic missle defense, but has a much larger range of capability. (and maybe, quite possibly, could be, tested/in testing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 so when the F-22 is gone, what's our answer to the Russian's stealth fighter? this is suppose to be far better than the Raptor http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd60/cwash77/20080507200131T-50.jpg That's funny because it sure looks like they photochopped a Raptor (minus thrust vectoring) in Russion colors. It's pretty typical since they try and copy just about everything we make and pass it off as there own... Ya...they were one after the other..just climbing at a high rate of speed and messing around. They practice Simulated Flame Out's (SFO's) with F-16's on a regular basis at WPAFB. They are stationed at Springfield and fly over to do VFR work. Since the F16 only has a single engine they are practicing a controller drop. Then they hit the burner and climb straight back up to 10,000ft. to drop down again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSS Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 That's funny because it sure looks like they photochopped a Raptor (minus thrust vectoring) in Russion colors. It's pretty typical since they try and copy just about everything we make and pass it off as there own... They practice Simulated Flame Out's (SFO's) with F-16's on a regular basis at WPAFB. They are stationed at Springfield and fly over to do VFR work. Since the F16 only has a single engine they are practicing a controller drop. Then they hit the burner and climb straight back up to 10,000ft. to drop down again.... the russian thrust vectoring doesn't look like ours but they do have the technology they have it on another aircraft there's a video floating around youtube at an airshow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 You are correct... Not to mention the F-35 is slated for multiple branches. That means a larger order and more funding required for the complete program. Money will be saved however, things like making a VTOL model for the Marines will add a LOT of extra cost.... The Military channel show on the F-22 said that it was also for multiple branches and there was also a VTOL model for the mariens in the works. IDK they could have been mistaken though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 The Military channel show on the F-22 said that it was also for multiple branches and there was also a VTOL model for the mariens in the works. IDK they could have been mistaken though. I believe you meant the F-35. That's why the F-35 is called the "Joint Strike Fighter"... http://www.jsf.mil/ The F/A-22 was designed for the Air Force ONLY from the beginning. http://www.f22-raptor.com/ I'm sure they could adapt it for other branches but it was never intended for any other service... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSS Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 That's funny because it sure looks like they photochopped a Raptor (minus thrust vectoring) in Russion colors. It's pretty typical since they try and copy just about everything we make and pass it off as there own... They practice Simulated Flame Out's (SFO's) with F-16's on a regular basis at WPAFB. They are stationed at Springfield and fly over to do VFR work. Since the F16 only has a single engine they are practicing a controller drop. Then they hit the burner and climb straight back up to 10,000ft. to drop down again.... here's the video of the Russian SU-35 with thrust vectoring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G912xcWKF3U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSS Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 and for those who haven't ever seen the F-35 here's a demo video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSFnAKZhXj4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 here's the video of the Russian SU-35 with thrust vectoring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G912xcWKF3U I've seen the SU-35 with it but haven't seen the Raptor clone they are claiming as the next gen aircraft. Any info on that...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSS Posted July 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I've seen the SU-35 with it but haven't seen the Raptor clone they are claiming as the next gen aircraft. Any info on that...? rumor is it's being built for the indian air force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 LOL.....Indian or Korea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMill Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Even though I work on heave aircraft, we do quite a few Russian intercept with the 22 up here. http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1160/f22andbearaw1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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